wowza, that is a special rig at a completely reasonable price (!) On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 9:38:00 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote: > > I think all the models you mention with extra seat stays going to the rear > dropout are considered "actual" mixtes. (See Sheldon Brown > <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_m.html>*:.) I've always been curious > about the etymology of this word as used to describe bicycles. In most > translations, it is used in the sense of "unisex" or co-educational. Also > dual purpose or hybrid, or combined. The English words "dual" , "twin" and > "double" all translate as "double" in French. I guess you could translate > it as a "mix of two steel tubes" but almost all uses of mixte, or the > French phrase "structure mixte" refer to the mixing of two different > things--concrete and cement, passengers and cargo, boys and girls. A > cuisinière mixte can use two different fuels. > > Years ago I came across a taxonomy chart of bicycle frame styles. I can no > longer find it. But I do recall the mixte being defined as Sheldon does, > the three seat stays, with two top tube variants, the single and double. A > bike with the top tube angled toward the rear dropouts but with no extra > seat stays was called, I believe, a Ladies Sport frame. Of course this > definition would tend to negate the notion that "mixte" refers to a unisex > coed style. So who knows. I'm going with "mixte' became a popular way for > the public (mostly in France) to refer to this style of frame that could > easily be ridden by both sexes, and that is what it became. But one known > known is that a Clem L is a step through, and a mixte is not, anniversary > edition or otherwise. > > Speaking of custom mixtes, Lovely Bicycle/aka Veloria/aka Constance's old > Royal mixte > <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Royal-H-Cycles-mixte-commuter-bicycle-650b-x-42mm-tire-53cm-seat-tube/153327419875> > > has been for sale on eBay for some time. Not a Leah approved colorway, > however. Also different geo than a Rivendel mixte. > Explained here: > http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/mixte-vs-mixte-whats-difference.html > > * A style of lady's <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#ladys> > frame in which the "top tube > <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html#toptube>" consists of a > pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper > head lug <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#lug>, past the seat > tube <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#seattube>, and on to > the rear fork ends <https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html#forkend>. > A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. A > variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the > upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays. A > lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte. > > > On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 3:07:34 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote: >> >> What makes the Anniversary Mixte special is that it is an actual Mixte >> with twin top tubes. As far as I know, this would be a first for a >> non-custom Rivendell. I have a Betty Foy (now claimed by my wife - she >> loves the hearts in the lugs and the paint), a Clementine, a Roscoe >> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte, and am waiting on the Roscoe Baby and not one >> of them is an actual Mixte. >> formerly from Gainesville, FL, soon to be from Delray Beach, FL >> >> >>>> >>>>
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