Yes they are considerably different Leah in that they are as you found out, considerably longer in the front overall. I noticed it in the first email photo of Grants new blue 59cm Clem-L(he formerly rode a 52) and called Will @ Riv to get the specs and that confirmed it. While I knew that would be great for someone tall like myself, and prefers a more leaning forward position, other people who have Clems may not like it without some re-adjustments.
I can't tell what length/height stem you have, but obviously one that offers a shorter *overall *reach will help. The shortness can be done with various angle and lengths, meaning a 80mm stem that rises say 25 degrees(above flat level) like a Dirt Drop will have a shorter overall reach(flat level) than one that lowers by 17 degrees, like a Tallux, at the same bar height. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7c4a361-e8cb-443c-b3cd-f2c6febc235c%40googlegroups.com.