Bill, Thank you for taking the trouble to measure the bars. In the end I 
decided to stick with my original plan to go with the Jones bar on a VO 
31.8 stem. 

On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 4:13:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> From the VERY end of the quill to the VERY TOP is 188mm.  
> From the max ht line to the VERY TOP of the quill is 125mm.
> From the max ht line to the 'slammed' position, or minimum height line, is 
> 84mm.
>
> I expect that on virtually any Rivendell that remotely fits me, I'll have 
> these bars slammed.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 11:27:16 AM UTC-8, Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your offer to check for me. I don't own the Bullmoose. I am 
>> getting this info from the Riv site. They say it measures 8.5 cm from max 
>> height line to the top of the quill. It also reads total vertical 
>> adjustment is 4.5 cm. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> I can measure when I'm back in my office next Monday where I've stashed 
>>> them.  How long is your 'short' bullmoose?  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 8:31:24 AM UTC-8, Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Bill, Could you answer a question for me on the Choco Moose bars? I 
>>>> am thinking about putting these on a Clem that I plan to use primarily off 
>>>> road. How long is the part of the stem that inserts into the head tube? I 
>>>> want to make sure there is enough space to get the bars up as needed.  Is 
>>>> it short like the Bull Moose or is it longer?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 10:41:55 AM UTC-5, Mark Schneider 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mission accomplished Bill!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 9:06:03 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to buy a set of Choco Moose handlebars.  The most recent for 
>>>>>> sale post I've found was $110 shipped, so I'll offer $120 shipped.  If 
>>>>>> your 
>>>>>> Holiday cash pile is too small and your handlebar pile is too large, let 
>>>>>> me 
>>>>>> know and I'll try to help balance them out. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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