I’m not saying you’re gonna get it, Joe, but you have to have an ideal.


> On Dec 7, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Really there's no "off topic" until the moderator says so. I've seen plenty 
> of Blahg-tangent discussions here because yes, Riv is Grant and Grant has 
> been an interesting figure in this business for over 30 years. I don't think 
> you're going to get "only the bikes and parts" here, it's not realistic. 
> 
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