Lots of people like the Esge two leg stands. I can only speak from my
experience and from comparing parking my wife's bike with parking my
bike for two months of touring. She seemed to be able to park anywhere
while I had to be a lot more selective.

Lifting a wheel clear of the ground was the only good thing I found
with a two legged stand. However, with a touring load, I didn't find
this all that stable or desireable. Without the panniers (and my
panniers take less than a minute to remove), it is just as easy to
flip the bike over onto the bars and seat.

In my experience with my 60 cm Bombadil, I found the center Esge 2 leg
stand to be unstable on anything but dead flat, hard ground. I mention
the size of the bike because I wondered whether the height provided a
greater lever for destabilizing it.

David mentions not being able to use rear triangle stands with a kid
trailer. This is true for some set-ups, but not all. For example,
Burley makes an axle hitch that substitutes for the "classic hitch"
that would compete for space on the rear triangle with the kickstand.
We don't have kids, but we do have a Burley Nomad, and it tows just
fine with the axle hitch and the rear kickstand.

Dave



On Apr 4, 11:07 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The nice thing about a 2-leg stand is that it will hold the bike up when a
> wheel is removed for repair (you may have to weight front or rear to keep
> the bike's other wheel on the ground), which in my opinion (opinion only, as
> I've not yet toured) might be good for loaded touring.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Dave Craig <dcr...@prescott.edu> wrote:
> > +1 for the rear mounted stand. I've used a 2-legged ESGE stand and
> > single legged stands on bike tours and, while they are better than no
> > stand at all, they are finicky. I installed a rear triangle stand on
> > my wife's touring bike last summer. She could park on nearly any
> > surface and her bike was stable. I was definitely envious!
>
> > Patrick - If you have a mount brazed on, I'd love to see the design.
>
> > Dave
>
> > On Apr 4, 6:05 pm, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Second, if you leave
> > > > it long enough, it seems to support even off-center loads far, far
> > better
> > > > than does a bb-mount 1-leg stand and, I dare say, perhaps even better
> > than a
> > > > 2-leg stand. I have yet to test it with, say, 25 lb in the leftside
> > pannier,
> > > > but with 15 lb, it supports the bike fine, especially if you turn the
> > front
> > > > wheel sharply to the right.
>
> > > I agree with this. They work quite well, even for our tandem when we
> > > put a bunch of crap on it.
>
> > > > I think that, God willing, I shall have some brazing done to the
> > Motobecane
> > > > (Riv content: this is a very Riv-ish bike: an upscale racing model that
> > can
> > > > carry 45 lb of groceries and wear 30 mm tire with fenders). First, a
> > > > left-rear-triangle kickstand mount.
>
> > > okay - tell me how where you find a mount plate like that? I think
> > > it'd be great to have a kickstand plate mounted there but I have no
> > > idea how it would work.
>
> > > -sv
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