As someone who's had both the Cheviot and the Clem L, I don't understand the comments about the Cheviot being lighter or faster. My Cheviot was neither compared to my Clem L, and it wasn't because of a difference of part weight or the presence of a rack or not. The builds were almost identical. I found the Clem L to be more springy and light (maybe not in actual weight, but in pedal stroke sensation / effort).
However, it could have been the tires. The Cheviot had 2.0" Big Bens and the Clem L had Compass Antelope Hills (~2.3"). The Big Bens are much heavier and have more rolling resistance. Perhaps try a lighter, suppler tire like the Antelope Hill or the Schwalbe G One? As someone who owns an actually light bike (sub-20lb titanium road bike with carbon fork and no cargo whatsoever), I really don't see making the Clem L meaningfully lighter, unless you're talking about big differences like "front and rear steel racks vs. no racks". Ride characteristics of a frame and bike fit are just as important to your speed as sheer bike weight. On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:02:00 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble > because we talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like each > other’s ideas and the next thing we know our wallets are on fire. > > So, I am ordering a Cheviot, and I am spending extra $ to build it with > light parts. But that bike is a long way off, months, in fact. Meanwhile, > Roberta is giving her beloved Appaloosa a makeover and it is getting lots > of new parts and she’s having all the fun. And since we’re #Rivsisters and > I’m like that little sister who wants what her sister has, I want to > explore what it would take to lighten up my Clem L, which is my only bike > at present, and which is quite heavy. You’ll have heard me mention this in > Joe’s What Is A Cheviot thread. If my Clem could lose a little weight it > would be the most perfect bike anyone could dream up. A Susie version of > Clems would be just so ideal - someone should tell Riv. > > Anyway, if I got aluminum Bosco bars, and new wheels (don’t ask me what > kind, how would I know?) would this make my bike feel considerably lighter? > I don’t think I can give up my front derailleur because I use it for Killer > Hill. And what if I wanted to add dyno while I was at it? Would that negate > my weight savings? Also, I’m keeping my racks; I can’t part with those. > Maybe I’m not the best candidate for this... > > Has anyone built a Clem up with lighter parts? Does it make a big > difference? As in, is it worth the money? > > Thanks! > Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/61232ea5-4ce6-458a-9d4e-63ba2ac723fd%40googlegroups.com.
