Ted: As I said in an earlier post, my Libertas + tubular wheel project is scheduled for 2021, if I and the world last that long, but I'd be interested in seeing a photo of and hearing your price for your tubular wheelset -- if you'll consider shipping them. If the price is low, I might be interested even if it means paying a shop to pack.
Would you consider selling and shipping just the rims? Others: what can all y'all tell me about Arc en Ciel rims? Thanks. Patrick "but it's really too early" Moore On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:17 PM ted <ted.ke...@comcast.net> wrote: > Re: association of tubulars with "roadies" > I guess really the association should be with "racers" though I think some > folks use of the term "roadie" implies a MCFRB riding racer wana be. Back > in the day high performance meant tubulars, but mostly only racers or racer > wana bees bothered with them (or even knew of them). Back then racing > pretty much meant road racing, though of course "road" racing includes > things like Paris - Roubaix and strada bianca. There was always cyclocross > too and from what I understand tubulars ruled there as well and still do. > But isn't cyclocross almost by definition racing? Most folks not racing > oriented didn't bother with the expense and perceived trouble of tubulars. > Over time narrower and higher performance clinchers became available and > most amateur racers and wana-bee types moved to those. By the early 90s > when I wanted to get my campi high flange / arc-enciel tubular wheels > rebuilt I had to traipse all over silicon valley before I found a shop that > wanted to do it instead of trying to convince me to just go to clinchers. > These days I don't know what a typical tubular rider would be except > perhaps a professional racer. > > Anybody in the sf bay area interested in a pair of old lightly used light > tubular wheels? Mavic hubs (freewheel rear) gl280 front gl330 rear rims. > There's an AC aluminum freewheel on the rear at the moment. > > On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:48:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Schairer wrote: >> >> Also being a Bill, I’ll volunteer my answer to Ted’s question. I have >> two sets of the Vlaanderen tires, each set with about 1800 miles times 4 >> gives me about 7200 tire miles? I have had one puncture too large for >> sealant -glass cut. The tire was at about the rated mileage limit and well >> worn but, unlike Bill L, I had no previous experience repairing tubulars so >> doing the repair was my opportunity for a learning experience. REMA patch >> and glue worked and the tire is still in service. All other punctures (not >> sure how many but not a lot) have been fixed with sealant. I’ve opted to >> ride with 2 spares and save sealant injections for home. I’ve changed >> exactly one tire on the road, the aforementioned flat. All other punctures >> were slow enough that I got home or they sealed from previously >> administered sealant. So far, I’ve come to the conclusion that latex tubes >> are more puncture resistant than butyl and leak more slowly when >> punctured. I’ve also pulled 3 goat heads out of tires with no sealant >> without any resulting loss of pressure. I don’t think I can ever remember >> doing that with a clincher. >> >> I also did a complete tube replacement on a used FMB tire that I acquired >> with a leak. That involved cutting a new $15 tube in half, pulling it >> through and gluing it back together. Probably got the instructions on that >> from Sheldon Brown. It took a long time but, again, this was a learning >> experience. That tire has about 90 of my miles on it. Not the greatest >> repair job - a little lumpy - but definitely worth it. >> >> I am also puzzled by a couple comments I’ve seen regarding these tires >> being for “roadies.” I don’t consider myself a roadie - never raced - >> always been a commuter, tourer and now recreational rider too. I’ve ridden >> my tubulars on and off road and will ride them under any conditions I would >> ride a clincher. Besides that, I believe many cyclocross racers use >> tubulars and I shouldn’t think they are roadies. Just saying. >> >> I apologize as I know I have a tendency to get carried away with my >> enthusiasm but reading the positive experiences of others who debunked the >> notion that tubulars are something exotic not worth the trouble finally >> pushed me to give them a try. I mean, there are similar discussions >> regarding tubeless? Besides, the more people who will give them a shot, the >> better chance we will get or keep more choices. I highly recommend them >> for anyone who enjoys working on their bicycles. If somebody else does all >> your work, maybe not the right choice. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/41edad8a-cf5a-4065-a277-2ca18410758a%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/41edad8a-cf5a-4065-a277-2ca18410758a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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