This is all really interesting info. I just recently replaced an old Dura Ace seatpost on my Roadeo with a Thomson Masterpiece zero offset seatpost that I had laying around. My Berthoud saddle is as far back as it could go. The position hasn't bothered me so far, which surprises me a bit. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but my Roadeo is a hair small for me, so I guess I predicted I would feel cramped. The fact that I've felt fine so far (for about 150 miles total) almost has me nervous.
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:44:15 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Regarding Steve Hogg's approach: > > "Let’s not forget Steve Hogg (IBFI): > > https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/seat-set-back-for-road-bikes/ > " > > That approach is essentially identical to how I approached bike fitting. > I was not a KOPS zealot. The longer and lower your body would allow you to > go, the further back the saddle can go. Sliding the saddle forward is > totally appropriate in balance with a higher-height shorter-reach stem. > It's all about the total body position in relationship to the bike. I > really like his illustrations of three riders with identical torso > measurements requiring different setups to account for their differences in > flexibility. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 12:06:29 PM UTC-7, Fryfam wrote: >> >> Appreciate hearing about your experience, Bill. If looking for a cheapo >> post for the sake of experimentation there's always Origin8. >> >> Probably worth noting that not everyone feels the same about zero setback: >> >> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/12/on-seatpost-setback-and-related-matters.html >> >> Analog’s stance, which seems to follow prevalent attitudes and perhaps >> fuels 0mm stem interest: >> https://www.analogcycles.com/zero-offset-seatposts-make-zero-sense-mostly/ >> >> Let’s not forget Steve Hogg (IBFI): >> >> https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/05/seat-set-back-for-road-bikes/ >> >> There are few hard / fast rules regarding bike fit that I follow. A big >> YES on cockpit experimentation to find one's optimal riding position >> (ideally established over yrs of micro tuning) on various cycling machines >> from different eras and with unique geos. Zero setback works perfectly for >> me *on a few of my bikes*. I’m 155-lbs, pbh ~35.5” and 5’11”… so even with >> an inline post my weight is distributed quite evenly within my >> semi-aero-levered “masters” cockpit. Most of my rides these days are 2.5-4 >> hours in length w/ average speeds of 18mph. >> >> In any case, zero setback in the 27.0 diameter is very difficult to come >> by as of late, given global shipping restrictions. >> >> Always up for Seattle rides with new friends... >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 10:22:41 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>> This is obvious and self-evident to a lot of people, but is >>> counter-intuitive to a lot of people: slamming your saddle forward to fix a >>> reach problem will often make your problem worse rather than better. If >>> your bars are too far away, and you are 'hunched over' too much, slamming >>> your saddle forward also pushes your weight forward, so now you will have a >>> lot more weight on your hands, making your hands, elbows, shoulders, neck >>> and upper back all worse off. >>> >>> Most road bikes from the 1980s have way too steep seat tubes, and >>> require you to slam the seat all the way back, often with an extra laid >>> back seatpost, to get your bum back as far back as it ought to be. When >>> that weight distribution is right, you should be able to just lay your >>> hands on the handlebars. If you are bent over too far when your saddle is >>> in the right position, then the right way to fix that is to get the bars >>> up. Slamming the saddle forward on a 1980s road bike would destroy my >>> shoulders. It makes my neck tense even thinking about it. >>> >>> It's worth experimenting with a zero-offset seatpost if you don't mind >>> the expense of it. Just know that you may find that you've made things >>> worse rather than better. >>> >>> On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 10:45:35 PM UTC-7, Fryfam wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyone have a 27.0 Thomson zero offset seatpost they'd be willing to >>>> sell and ship to me in Seattle? Need something for my old Centurion tourer >>>> - to bring my aging self just a little closer to the handlebars... ;-/ >>>> thx >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a9382791-810f-4a13-ae25-060ed9dfe05f%40googlegroups.com.
