I think what can work as a 'very upright' Brooks is mostly down to each 
person's anatomy, and somewhat which particular example of leather your saddle 
happened to come with. I also ride quite upright due to hand issues and find 
most B17s perfect for this, OTOH I have one new B17 Standard on my Brompton 
that seems determined to kill me. OTO-OTHER-H the B67/68 shape Leah's using to 
some success has never worked for me at all. 

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