Thanks, Patrick. As it stands, with more advice and research, I have asked
the shop to order me the latest Surly fixed/fixed hub; I have Phils on the
gofast, but IME, the Surly bearings seem to be as long lasting*, at least
in my conditions. I am tempted by the just-plain-niceness of the Phils,
thought, and after hearing your report on the Pauls, would probably choose
Phil if I decide/decided to order for looks.

* I preemptively replaced the Phil's bearings at about 13K when I had the
Phil bb bearings replaced and the frame altered; the (130 mm
hub) Surlys have ~11K and more dirt and rain and still feel new.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:31 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Paul and Phil. The Paul needed the bearings replaced after a year, so I
> put in Phil bearings. Grin. Doing it again, I'd go Phil. Surly is
> attractive for the price, but the price of having to redo a wheel dissuaded
> me from testing it out for my riding.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 9:20:24 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for broadcasting this, but I don't have Patrick's email address.
>>
>> Patrick: What fixed gear hubs have you had most success with offroad? I'd
>> like to replace the Surly 130 mm OL hub with some 120 OL hub, but I've not
>> bought a fixed hub except for 2 ENOs since 2006.
>>
>> The newer model of the Surly (with the replacement axle) seems
>> bulletproof, but I daresay yours might be even more bullet proof.
>>
>> SIlver, 120 mm, 32 hole, hollow axle for QR or allen bolts. Fixed/fixed
>> preferred but fixed/free or even fixed/nothing acceptable.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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