I thought some years RB-1s maxed out at about 28mm tires, though I could be 
wrong. I think the issue would be the bottom of the brake calipers. But 
maybe the '93 was one that took wider tires.

While I would agree with Paul that some of the touring frames mentioned 
would be a bit portly, a 70s/80s 531 frame in 60cm I think would be just 
fine with one of those mini handlebar bags from VO or a Banana Sack, if you 
want to be a rando kid.

On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 7:11:35 PM UTC-4, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
> Thank you all for the incredible information. I really do appreciate the 
> time spent on my hunt for a glass hammer! Iv'e got a couple candidates so 
> far, one being a local seller with a 93' (same age as me!) RB-1 frameset 
> and another with a Mercian I'd like to get additional info on. The longer 
> wheelbase of the Mercian is very tempting but I've also heard the RB-1 
> rides stable for it's geo so more to come. 
>
> Wishing everyone good health, 
> Andrew
>
> On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 3:19:47 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:
>
>> If you decide low trail is what you want, you might consider the Soma 
>> Grand Randonneur. Designed by the Boulder Bicycle people, but way, way 
>> cheaper than their All-Road. If I had funds for a third bike, it would 
>> probably be the one I'd choose. 
>>
>> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 10:06:09 PM UTC-4, Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Group.
>>> Maybe I'll just start this conversation off with what I'm searching for 
>>> and I'll add the backstory after. 
>>>
>>>    - steel frame + fork (lugged preferably) that could clear 700x32 
>>>    tires 
>>>    - rim brake
>>>    - lightish tubing ( I weigh a scant 132lbs at 6'1") 
>>>    - DT shifter braze-ons 
>>>    - Trying to keep the price to no more than $1000 for frame + fork
>>>    - Frames of all ages welcome 
>>>    - Designed to hold weight in the front (but I can make do with a 
>>>    saddlebag)
>>>
>>> Bikes I've had in the past to try to fit these requirements: 
>>>
>>>    - VO Campeur: way better suited for heavy touring. Way stouter than 
>>>    I need.
>>>    - Black Mtn Cycles monster cross: pretty nice but that frame really 
>>>    wanted tires in the 38mm+ range which is overkill for me. 
>>>    - Rivendell Roadini: damn fine frame and very comfortable. Tig 
>>>    welded though and I might've gotten too large of frame with the 61cm. On 
>>> my 
>>>    list of possibilities though. The quality was also a disappointment for 
>>> my 
>>>    first riv, chipped paint out of the box and very poorly installed 
>>> headset. 
>>>
>>> I just got done with my first longer ride on a 58cm Gazelle Champion 
>>> Mondial AA frame . I built it up because riding my first brevet on the VO 
>>> Campeur a year ago made me realize how important a more nimble bike, 
>>> especially for majority road use, is. But I might've gone too far. It's a 
>>> rocket no doubt but I found it fatiguing having to stay so vigilant on 
>>> descents. And putting the weight up front lead to a very close call down a 
>>> particularly sketchy downhill. I think slacker geometry might help with 
>>> that ;) 
>>>
>>> All this to say, if any of you rando kids have some suggestions I'm all 
>>> ears! 
>>>
>>> Thanks Group, 
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>

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