Ahhhhh, I thought it was a 650b model . Thanks again On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:19 PM Ash <ashw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Joel, During the few months I owned the Atlantis I had done many around > the town rides and a few half-day trips (30-40 miles). It was very > comfortable thanks to the upright friendly design plus the longer > wheelbase. It was a bit more noble compared to 51 Appa. Likely because > of 26" wheels. > > > On Saturday, 4 July 2020 at 09:42:04 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote: > >> Ash, great info. I never have a load so that would not be an issue. >> Smooth roads, hills at times, like everyone, some rides more than others. >> My only issue with the Appaloosa is the standover which may not be an >> issue. I have found a forum member who lives a bit less than 2.5 miles >> with a build in Appaloosa, his wife’s, and invited me to try it. I am >> using on the Bleriot BSP 42mm cushy tires. It sounds like the Atlantis may >> have a bit stiffer tubing but, and correct me if I am wrong, a close ride >> on comfort (plush) ride. You said loaded the Atlantis handled better, how >> about without a load? Do you feel it is the somewhat longer wheel base that >> adds to all these bikes are! >> >> Ash, thanks so much, hard to decide when you cannot ride. Like you I >> have owned many bikes, 8 Rivs and counting. >> >> Joel >> >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Ash <ash...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Joel, >>> >>> I have owned 3 Rivendells between 2016 and 2019. 51cm Appaloosa, 50cm >>> MIT Atlantis and 46cm (in that order, in succession). Sold each of them to >>> list members after riding for a few months. I had no legit reason to >>> change bikes so fast other than curiosity (and spare time at hand). I like >>> fiddling with bike as much as riding them. I have tried a dozen or so >>> kinds of handlebars/stems/saddles on these bikes to figure out ergonomics. >>> I have also tried a few kinds of brakes just to understand how different >>> they are. Same goes with shifters, cranksets and cassettes. >>> >>> Now I'm waiting for my Longbolts frame. Out of those 3 Rivs, I rode 51 >>> Appaloosa the most. I do not remember stand over clearance being an issue >>> (thanks to the sloping TT). It had the supplest ride of all. Some of >>> the rides I did with 51 Appaloosa when it was built minimally (without >>> fenders/racks) were the most enjoyable ever. I did a few lightly loaded >>> (about 20 pounds weight, often in the front) long rides (50ish miles). I >>> have done several grocery runs, often cargo both in the front and back. >>> 50cm Atlantis was better suited for such use. To me 51 Appa became >>> slightly unwieldy at times with load. With load, Atlantis was more >>> enjoyable to ride. 46 Appaloosa felt quite similar to 50 Atlantis, >>> with a bit less stack (hence I could never get the handlebars high enough - >>> I like to ride upright). >>> >>> The Atlantis came close to 51 Appa's cushiness when I experimented for >>> some time with 2" compass RTP tubeless (Appa had 2" Schwalbe Allmotion >>> sometimes and 47mm WTB Horizons on other occasions, with inner tube). >>> >>> Enjoy the bike hunt! >>> >>> hth, >>> Ash >>> >>> PS: can't wait to build the Susie. I'm in Rich's wheel set queue. >>> >>> On Thursday, 2 July 2020 at 15:21:12 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Ash, actually I like the Appaloosa a lot but the sizing may be a >>>> tad off from what Riv told me although a member on this forum has said the >>>> standover was 30 5/8 which could work for me. What size did you get and how >>>> do you find the standover? I am on a Bleriot at the moment, had sold a load >>>> of Rivs due to a car accident 10 years ago, sold 6 about 5 or 6 years ago, >>>> a custom, an AR and another Bleriot I was going to bring to Brasil. I am >>>> back on the bike now after 10 years that the Bleriot is good but a tad high >>>> TT for me although Grant would think it is fine. I don't like feeling to TT >>>> as much as I do when I stand over the bike but I can live with it. I like >>>> the longer chainstay idea of your bike, hope you love it. From what >>>> I have learned the new Atlantis may be a good fit for me but I just don't >>>> bond with the color when I look at the pictures. Are you happy with the MIT >>>> bike? My Bleriot has some issues, not really issues but some of the braze >>>> ons are not in exactly the right place, my rear rack had to come off as it >>>> was pushing on the rear brake, really not a big deal as I don't really >>>> carry anything. >>>> >>>> Thanks much >>>> >>>> Joel >>>> >>>> Joel >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:13 PM Ash <ash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Joel, >>>>> >>>>> I sold mine to a local buyer in 2016 before building my 51cm green >>>>> Appaloosa. >>>>> >>>>> I remember that order through Bicycle Classics is a slow process. You >>>>> need to email them indicating what item you need. Sooner or later (likely >>>>> later) you will get a response. Then you PayPal them the money. I think >>>>> his name is Greg. Speaking from my experience, they are reliable. For >>>>> the >>>>> Sam Marcos frame I made double payment (some goof up happened with the >>>>> mobile app session). He promptly refunded it next day. I also remember >>>>> that once I sent them the payment, they shipped the frame pretty quickly. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck! >>>>> >>>>> Ash >>>>> >>>>> PS: I have read your frame discussions on and off in other threads. >>>>> I'm guessing you are wishing Roadini 50/54cm sizes were 650b. I certainly >>>>> do. San Marcos is as close to Roadini as it gets if you want 650b. >>>>> Confession, if the frame I got was the newer version of San Marcos >>>>> (slightly darker blue), I would not have sold it. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 2 July 2020 at 09:25:42 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ash, did you sell your 51cm San Marcos frame? Also, how in the world >>>>>> did you place an order with bicycle classics, I cannot figure out how >>>>>> this >>>>>> guy does business. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Joel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-5, Ash wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mine was shipped from Laporte, CO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does not seem like the guy checks his email that frequently. Once I >>>>>>> placed the order he shipped the item very next day though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, 21 November 2016 16:51:47 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe I was mistaken, I thought I had seen multiple posts by you, >>>>>>>> oh well.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where is Bicycle Classics shipping from? 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