On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 6:18:22 PM UTC-5 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:

> Your experience, appreciated.
>

And lots of experience posted from all over! I gave wax a try for a couple 
of years, but it never made it through winters very well here (salty slush 
on the roads is a nightmare for chains and gears). To be fair, I didn't 
have a good, dedicated pot for heating the wax. I now have a caddy loaded 
with pretty much all the commercial concoctions aimed at bike chains from 
Dry to Epic conditions. Every one of them promise to be clean and long 
lasting, and none of them deliver on it. I have not yet tried NFS.

A couple of people have given the thumbs up to WD-40. I agree, it's tough 
to beat WD-40 for cleaning and a quick lube. If you want it to last the 
duration of a 200km or longer brevet, especially a wet one, well, that's 
not going to happen. I saw an article somewhere, as I was noodling on this 
issue, that showed WD-40 is the best lube and also is the shortest-lasting. 
Chain saw oil, which you can also find packaged as Phil (Wood) Tenacious 
Oil, is quite long lasting, quite messy, and higher friction. Higher is 
relative - as the Spicer research notes, friction losses are tiny.

In the course of my experimentation, I spied the old bottle of 3-in-One on 
my shelf and thought, "huh, why not?" It even says right on the front that 
it's great for bicycle chains. I've been using it for a few years now and 
am very happy with it. I can easily go a few hundred miles without care. I 
haven't had to ride a brevet in the rain with it, but I've had some wet 
rides and it lasts pretty well. In the winter, as with any lube, I have to 
clean, dry, and re-lube after every ride if the roads are wet and salty. 
Between lubes, an occasional wipe with a rag sprayed with WD-40 keeps the 
outside clean. Cleaning (more WD-40 and a rag) and relubing takes about 15 
minutes if I'm being slow. I also like to keep my derailer pulleys and cogs 
clean (more WD-40) at the same time.

One part of this topic I haven't seen discussed, but I think is crucial, is 
how the lube is applied. Waxing techniques are their own thing. Applying 
wet lubes, the biggest game changer for me was putting the 3-in-One into an 
old valve oil bottle with a needle applicator (from my other hobby, playing 
horn). The needle applicator allows for precise delivery of a small drop on 
each link - no more flooding the chain and spending another hour trying to 
get rid of the excess. My new bottle of 3-in-One appears to be a lifetime 
supply at this rate. And, the little bottle with the needle rides easily in 
my handlebar bag for a long ride.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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