Wow! Thanks. 8 weeks ago I had lower lumbar decompression surgery because my left foot dropped. I used to be 6'3" I'm now 6'1". I haven't ridden since last September. I now have good days and bad. I hope I'm able to ride again. I rode up and down the street a couple of times Saturday. I'm 69 yrs old. Having trouble getting my leg over the saddle when dissmounting. The 58 Sam just touches when I stand over. I could ride the Cheviot all day long. I'd like to hear more about your back if you feel like sharing. I'm glad you will be back in the saddle again. I don't know what I would do if I was told I couldn't ride again. Sounds like you are in California. I used to live down south in Long Beach. Nice talking with you. Jon
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 8:35 PM Joel Stern <[email protected]> wrote: > Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area. Years ago > when Grant measured me it was 82 or 83. I know even though I have lost 2” > after 2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from > the pelvic bone down. My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would > never ride again was 56cm. The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the > Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit. The 50cm > Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm > less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the > equivalent by using the 4” rule. 1cm less height may have made the bike > perfect, 2 cm probably better. I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from > a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the > Bleriot. I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be > a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the > Bleriot. If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the > correct size. My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc. the 54 was probably > the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know). I > had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet > I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think. That is the one I regret > parting with the most. > My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold > the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally > different animal I am told. > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH >> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot. >> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when >> getting on or off. >> Did you feel that way with your old bike? >> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting old😀I >> was looking at a 55 Atlantis. >> Jon >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the >>> 50cm is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that >>> was my excuse for getting a new frame. >>> >>> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build. >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from >>>>> Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to >>>>> go. >>>>> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. 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