Thanks for the info Mark.

Well all I can say is, that is one badass beautiful bike!!
On Nov 8, 2020, 6:22 PM -0800, Mark Roland <absolutegal...@gmail.com>, wrote:
> I know what you mean, Paul. In today's world, sometimes it's the most 
> sensible, conservative things that seem the most wacky.
>
> When my son and I are out on the single track and jeep roads of Stewart State 
> Forest and we come upon the occasional gaggle of "serious" mountain bikers on 
> full suspension hydraulic disc carbon bikes with full xcountry gear, I think 
> they look...pretty darn wacky. Especially since both me, a mostly ex-roadie, 
> and my son, who will be eleven this month, have zero problem on any of the 
> trails, despite riding steel rigid bikes with rim brakes.
>
> I feel like there is a sweet spot in many technologies, where the use and 
> function seems most appropriate and human scale. I think the original 
> mountain bike concepts hit that sweet spot, and in many ways represent the 
> pinnacle of useful, appropriate bicycle design for the vast majority of stuff 
> the vast majority of people would want or need to do on a bicycle. What I 
> love about the Hillibikes, is that they take the original mountain bike 
> concepts and reimagine and redefine them.That someone in 2020 would design 
> and produce bicycles like the Hillibikes is indeed wacky and wonderful!
>
> <hillibikesticker_1600x.jpg>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 8:35:49 PM UTC-5, Paul Richardson wrote:
> > looking great.  love the wild direction you went with the build--really 
> > suits (what i consider to be) a totally whacky frame.  good synergy!!
> >
> > paul
> > takoma park, md.
> >
> >
> > > On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 6:10:33 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:
> > > > Sorry, did not fully answer Andrew's  questions. I have Cliffhangers on 
> > > > my Hubbuhubbuh, which is also new to me, so could not give you a 
> > > > comprehensive comparison. They are fine, a rounded profile with a flat 
> > > > silver finish and no eyelets. The Rhynos have eyelets and a more 
> > > > traditional boxy profile, and are made by the company that puts out the 
> > > > venerable CR-18 rims, always a  solid choice. I imagine they are both 
> > > > good reliable rims. My aesthetics favor the Rhynos (yes, even in white) 
> > > > but if I had to wait on one and wanted the wheels I would probably get 
> > > > the other and not worry about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 2:22:37 PM UTC-5, Andrew Stevens wrote:
> > > > > Nice! I'm waiting on mine, and have been stumped looking for rims. 
> > > > > How do you feel about the Rhyno XLs? Those are the 36 hole right? I 
> > > > > don't believe they came in a 32. Would you recommend them over 
> > > > > waiting for Velocity Cliffhangers to come back in stock?
> > > > >
> > > > >
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