Mine may be considered crush hats but they work for me. I do have a Filson 
waxed cotton brim hat but it’s too stiff for me so I rarely use it. I have also 
used Tilley hats quite a bit and do like them a lot but there are other cheaper 
hats that work as well for half the money.

I love OR hats. The XL sizes fit my gargantuan melon and they are typically 50 
SPF. This one I like:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005BVXZUK?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

Railriders also sell a great sun hat. Theirs comes with a neck shade stowed in 
the underside of the brim that you can deploy when needed. I think the brim is 
a bit wider on this one too and they are on sale. This Company has other SPF 
clothes that are decent

https://www.railriders.com/sun-sombrero-p-1029.html?cPath=90_101

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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> On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> We've discussed hiking or walking shoes, walking as supplementary exercise to 
> cycling, and now --- hats. BTW, more walking, with attention to posture and 
> longer stride, seems to have helped the minor back injury a great deal -- 
> which obviously makes riding more comfortable -- so thanks for that.
> 
> Even in December the afternoon sun is very strong here at 5K+ feet, and my 
> old straw cowboy hat, almost perfect when new, has stretched to the point 
> where it comes down over my ears.
> 
> I want something with a wide brim, as light and ventilated as possible, and 
> with a more structured look, not a crush hat.
> 
> I see all sorts of highly praised ones online; this and this and this, for 
> example:
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/Dorfman-Pacific
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/RedHead-Aussie
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/Henschel-Aussie-Breezer
> 
> I've not bought a new hat, except for cycling caps, since about 1997, so I 
> know next to nothing about them. 
> 
> I don't mind paying $100 for something that is really better than what you 
> get for under $40, but the difference will have to be real.
> 
> I hate baseball caps.
> 
> Comments and suggestions?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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