Thanks Will B and Will D. I have an older pair of the Lake winter shoes (even older than the MXZ303, from looking at the pictures), and they're quite warm I usually have to wear them only a few times each winter, but when I need them, I'm glad I have them. I had a pair of later Lake winter road boots, but didn't like those as much and sold them when I switched to SPDs on my road bikes.
I know that the neoprene covers are an essential part of the protection system, but I really would prefer a boot without them, with room for 2 pairs of wool socks, including an outer, heavier pair, and thickish uppers and a sole with some tread. But then, I rarely have to ride in slush or rain or sleet. On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:50 PM Will Boericke <wboeri...@gmail.com> wrote: > They are an older model of Shimano shoes. The current version has some > name like MW7. Lightly insulated, gore-tex, with a neoprene collar. The > collar is the thing that's dying first - rest of the shoe is still going > strong. I wear them every day for my commute (October - April) + cold > weather mtb and road duty in the shoulder season. They are probably 1/2 > size larger than my Sidis: extra room for socks and happy warm feet. The > only downside (which I think is corrected in the newer model) is that the > sole is just plastic. I have done several headers in them, one notably in > my backyard on ice under snow. Luckily I was wearing my helmet. Wish I > had footage. > > When I replace them, I might spring for Lake's winter shoes. I think they > are the ne plus ultra of winter shoes. > > Will, keeping feet dry and riding in all temps. > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 12:42 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Will: Can you describe, or give make and model, of your dedicated winter >> bike shoes? >> >> >> Patrick Moore, still hoping for some rideable snow this season, in ABQ, NM >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:39 AM Will Boericke <wboeri...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dedicated winter bike shoes have been the best money I've spent, >>> bike-wise. Gore-tex and 1/2 size bigger. Did 2 hours on the mtb in 12 >>> degrees yesterday, no problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:08:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>>> A not-quite-on-topic, and in any case no longer attainable factor in >>>> cold weather warmth is youth. Back when I was in my 20s, youthful hot >>>> blood, to use another weird Victorian concept, kept me warm in cold >>>> weather. During my 5 years in La Ville de Kebek, I did my 4 miles of >>>> running outside in temps as low as -17*F (the high on the coldest day I >>>> ran; I went X-country skiiing at 20 below or lower), and my kit was >>>> poor-grad-student cheap: regular running shoes over thick wool socks from >>>> some sort of Eastern Canadian chain store, thin, cotton Kmart sweat pants, >>>> and cotton T shirt under cheap ditto cotton sweatshirt under high quality >>>> but very old anorak with peeling water barrier, plus acrylic scarf and >>>> *toque,* and cheap fleece-lined leather work gloves. I only ever felt >>>> cold on that -17* high day; on most days, I'd peel off scarf and open >>>> anorak zipper halfway through my 4 miles, running, not jogging. >>>> Interesting, I always felt more energetic on very cold days; I guess the >>>> body expends little energy in heat dissipation when it's well below >>>> freezing (temps when snow feels like dense styrofoam). My puny youthful >>>> moustache would be entirely encased in a chrysalis of ice (this was late >>>> '70s and early '80s). >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5a4ec1a6-7b14-46eb-8e85-65306abc1cf9n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5a4ec1a6-7b14-46eb-8e85-65306abc1cf9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/fhxPz3ZpXMY/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsXej8Hh0rcy4LV-9P3gTUDL9i-yFtb4XRYzLZbzKf%3D%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsXej8Hh0rcy4LV-9P3gTUDL9i-yFtb4XRYzLZbzKf%3D%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAFwrbzoAVAXE%2BTZQNWj%2BbA9qLg72-9Eegot8pD6n4XJafM476w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAFwrbzoAVAXE%2BTZQNWj%2BbA9qLg72-9Eegot8pD6n4XJafM476w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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