That EBISU is so sweet, and now I know who you are from IG haha. I guess
the big question is what do you want the Rivendell to do and what qualities
from these bikes do you want it to have / not have?  Grant doesn't make a
bad bike but he makes a handful that aren't probably what you're after!



On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:03 PM Sam Perez <sam.perez.2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is really helpful, I'm interested about more experiences to help
> guide me in the right direction.
>
> Here are some of the bikes mentioned
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 5:33 PM Chris L <clampe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had an 83-84 Takara Highlander, which was basically a Stumpjumper clone
>> and it rode nothing like a Riv.  The Takara was floppy at slow speeds and
>> became a juggernaut at medium and faster speeds.  The front-end either felt
>> like you couldn't hold it steady or it felt like you could barely budge it
>> from straight.
>>
>> The Hunqapillar front-end is very neutral, not twitchy and not overly
>> stable.  In fact, the front end just instinctively goes where I want it
>> too, which I think is a big part of the Riv ride magic.   If I see a
>> particular path I want to take or something I want to avoid, just thinking
>> about it seems to make it happen, with no real conscious effort to make the
>> steering corrections.
>>
>> I test rode a 26" LHT and found it to be extremely twitchy and
>> unpleasant.  But, it had drop bars, which I'm not used too, and the skinny
>> tires Surly spec'd for it.  Put fat tires and a mtb handlebar on the 26"
>> LHT, and I think it would ride similar to a Rivendell.  In fact, the front
>> end geometry of the 26" LHT and the original 56 cm Atlantis, yield pretty
>> much the same trail and wheel flop numbers.
>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-6 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I'm ready to get a riv bike but haven't ridden one yet. Bikes I've owned
>>> and emulated rive bikes with are the following.
>>>
>>> MB-1  26"
>>> MB-0. 26"
>>> Surly LTH.  26"
>>> EBISU All purpose 650b
>>> Salsa ala carte    26"
>>> 84 stump jumper 26"
>>> 80s univega.         26"
>>>
>>> Anyone have experience with same bikes? Do the rivs handle like 80s mt
>>> conversations?  after years of riding I'm beginning to get some neck pain
>>> from drop bars. So really an upright sporty rando with day loads up diablo.
>>> Haven't decided what model yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sam
>>>
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