Jan at Rene Herse likes the CX70 for both compact doubles and triples where 
the big ring is around 46 or 44 teeth. I have no interest in STI/Ergopower, 
however. I sticking with my Riv friction-only Silver bar end shifters. But 
here is Jan's rant:
https://www.renehersecycles.com/trouble-with-sti-triples/

Since I do only friction shifting I was hoping it would work well for me 
regardless of whether I went with a Rene Herse 42-26 or a Riv Silver 
44-34-24 triple. Because I'm still waffling there. :-)  I just know that 
I'm dumping my old Sugino triple when the current chain rings wear out. I'm 
told that the Silver Triple will be available in 6 months. The Rene Herse 
double 42-26 is available now. So either could work. Just wondering if the 
CX70 would be a good derailer for either. My Claris is a triple, judging by 
the fact that it has the stepped channel that Jan goes on about.

Doug

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 12:26:07 AM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Hi Doug, is your Claris triple specific? If it's not, that may account for 
> the rough shifts. Triple FDs have an inner plate that is taller than the 
> outer one. The CX70 is spec'ced for a double crank (46T top gear, 16T 
> outer-to-inner difference) may have problems with the triple as well.
>
> I've used a Claris double with a VO 46/30 and a Sugino 42/26 in friction, 
> and it worked well for both. Currently on my MIT Hillsen I'm running a 
> Silver 46-34-24 with a Deore FD-M591 (the 3x9 version), a 9-speed rear, and 
> Silver1 shifter. The M591 is matched almost perfectly with that crankset 
> and gearing: 48T top gear, 12T outer-to-mid difference, 22T outer-to-inner 
> difference. Front shifts are like butter with this setup.
>
> (BTW the crank is a Silver low-low double with a Sugino 46T chainring 
> replacing the guard. I didn't want to wait for a Silver triple...)
>
> The Claris triple (FD-R2030) will work but is less ideal: 50T top gear, 
> 11T outer-to-mid difference,  20T outer-to-inner difference. Better for 
> something like a 48-38-28 crank but will likely be made to work with your 
> 46-36-24.
>
> Good luck,
> Ed C.
> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 8:44:40 PM UTC-7 Doug Williams wrote:
>
>> I have a Hilsen with 28.6mm seat tube and it looks like there is already 
>> a shim on there to mount my derailer, a clamp on Shimano Claris Triple. The 
>> shim seems to make it about 32mm. So if I replace this derailer, would a 
>> 31.8/28.6 clamp on be correct?
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>> I found a bottom pull Shimano CX70 in that size that looks nice. Everyone 
>> raves about the CX70 so I wonder if it would be better than my Claris? The 
>> Claris basically works, but it is not exactly smooth. I am currently 
>> running the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 but I might switch to the Rene 
>> Herse 42-26 or wait for Riv's Silver Triple 44-34-24 to be back in stock. 
>> In any event, when this set of chain rings wears out, I am done with the 
>> Sugino hidden bolt. I just stripped the bitch and had to drill it out, so 
>> I'm done with hidden bolts.
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>> So...would the CX70 work with both double and triple 8 speed friction 
>> only (Silver Bar End) shifters? Or is it only going to work with a double? 
>> Would the CX70 be better than the Claris?
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