Damien, I switched from Albatross to Choco bars on my Sam and am very happy with them. I do not get the same rise as on the Albatross and have more hand positions. I tried an Appaloosa before buying the Sam, did bring an Atlantis in (basically the same bike) and found I was not a long chainstay rider. I personally would vote for the Sam which for now is the only show on town for you.
Enjoy Sent from ProtonMail for iOS On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 5:14 PM, Damien <damien.m.pet...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just an update here. I decided to stick with the Hillborne since I had so > many great rides on it the past few weeks and knew I would regret selling > it..... > ......aaaand someone else nabbed the Appaloosa - looks like the decision was > made for me! > > I may consider going back to upright bars at some point in the distant > future, but may try some that aren't Albatross. I would consider a Wavie or > Bullmoose since they don't seem to sweep back as much and the angle seems > nicer. I also have some SimWorks Fun 3 bars collecting dust in the parts bin > that might end up on there one day, but for now, the drops will be just fine! > On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 11:39:15 UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Excellent to know about the long pull levers! Thanks! Gets me kind of >> thinking about building up a full drop bar cockpit for my Atlantis to see >> how I like it... >> >> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:36:18 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: >> >>> Ben - regarding V-brakes and drop bars, there are a couple long-pull levers >>> out there, and the best of them is made by Cane Creek. So, don't fret about >>> drops and v-brakes, it's doable! >>> >>> Regarding Sam vs. Joe... I think it comes down to a couple things: >>> - Are you planning to run fenders? If not, both bikes can fit a decent size >>> tire, even the caliper Sams. If so, that'll reduce the Sam's offroad >>> capabilities somewhat >>> - Are you a heavier or lighter rider? If you're sub-200lbs I wouldn't >>> concern yourself with which will carry a payload better, as they'll both >>> carry a lot. >>> - What percentage of off-pavement riding will you do? I would stick with >>> the Sam if you're above 70% pavement, but no doubt the Joe will start to >>> make sense as that number drops >>> >>> They'd be such complimentary bikes as Erik has illustrated, but if that's >>> not feasible for cost or space reasons, it's a funny thing: it's a heck of >>> a difficult decision, but at the same time, you can't go wrong with either. >>> >>> On Wednesday, 30 June 2021 at 08:31:00 UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I'm feeling this post today! I have an Atlantis and love it and have no >>>> plans of ever getting rid of it. I do, however, have the itch for >>>> something a little more sprightly and nimble with drop bars. I strongly >>>> desire a Homer, but I think I'm a v-brake guy for life now and would >>>> prefer a Sam (though would need mini-V brakes if I understand how >>>> traditional road drop bar brake levers work). Love hearing everyone's >>>> feedback on this as I was thinking about posting something similar. >>>> >>>> TL:DR - I have nothing to add to this other than I feel the pain of >>>> wanting two Rivs for two different styles of riding...but know in my heart >>>> I'd be fully content just having what I've got. >>>> >>>> Ben "no help" in Omaha. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry for the crazy typos, these iPads have a mind of their own. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:24 AM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch >>>>> <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I ride a Hillborne ans a Bleriot, I am not a fan of the longer chain >>>>>> stays. I started using albatross bars when they were introduced on mt >>>>>> custom and AR. I set up my Saluki and then my Bleriot with them. When I >>>>>> started riding again last year (layoff due to back issues) I Foy find >>>>>> the Bleriot a bit squirrelly. It took a bit to figure out how to ride >>>>>> with this bike and albatross again. I switched the Hillborne and Bleriot >>>>>> to Choco bars this year and I like them better. I do not ride upright, I >>>>>> will gave my hands over the brakes and as far up as what might be equal >>>>>> to the flats of drops. I have handy different positions with these (now >>>>>> my favorite bars). I think using drops or albatross is more about your >>>>>> riding style than the bike. Just my opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as swapping the Hillborne for an Appaloosa, I looked at both and >>>>>> actually brought an Atlantis in, it was sold within a month and then I >>>>>> got the Hillborne and I have never looked back. The Appaloosa is very >>>>>> similar to the Atlantis. >>>>>> >>>>>> Enjoy your Sam Hillborne. >>>>>> On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 11:40:12 PM UTC-4 JP wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 89.9999 pbh 185lb 46ish >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a 10 year old or so 60cm sam with albatross and a high high >>>>>>> double in the front. I have recently lowered the front stem to get in a >>>>>>> more roadish posture and it seems to balance the weight better front to >>>>>>> back for me? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bought a 2021 appaloosa 57cm with tosco cliffhanger shikoro. Haven't >>>>>>> received it yet. I bought the Joe based on loving the length of my >>>>>>> brothers MIT 62cm atlantis - also i felt my dad's 63cm homer always >>>>>>> felt nice even though it's supposed to be similar geometry to the sam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am pretty sure would sell the sam but it doesn't seem like i'd get >>>>>>> even 1250 or so and my people want me to keep it at that "market value." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am a casual rider and do not expect to carry camping gear nor to club >>>>>>> ride. But i would like to cruise up mt diablo (i've never ridden up all >>>>>>> the way) would a roadish bike make the goal easier? I don't know but >>>>>>> don't expect so. 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