Johnny, I had an Atlantis which has a very long wheelbase and sold it 
quickly.  Why I am hesitant about the AHH.  


On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:10:28 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I had a 53 Bleriot that always felt just a tiny bit too small but I never 
> tried a 55. My Saluki is a 54cm and its a perfect fit. I had a 52 Hillborne 
> back when that was a thing and with the expanded geometry it felt a bit on 
> the large size. The new Rivendell sizing always seems to have me at the 
> very top or very bottom. My newest is a 50cm Gallop prototype and that 
> feels very close to my 54 Saluki. Its a good fit. I would imagine a 51 AHH 
> would feel a tad smaller than the 55 Bleriot so likely right what you would 
> want. But the long wheelbase bikes feel different.  The Bleriot/Saluki is 
> tied for my favorite Rivendell with the Rambouillet.
>
> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 10:48:09 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Johnny, thanks, I have a Bleriot that is a tad large for me and a 
>> Hillborne that fits well.  With 48mm vs. 42mm tires I can say the Hillborne 
>> is a more comfortable bike.  I am not a fan of the very long wheelbase 
>> Rivs, the AHH seems to not be ultra long.  I ride with Choco bars on both 
>> bikes and a high stem, but I do stretch out a bit, so not upright.  
>>
>> I originally had a Saluki but the 56 was way to big for me even though my 
>> 56 custom was not (both gone now), why I got the 55 Bleriot.  The 51 AHH 
>> would be a better fit if I did decide to buy one.
>>
>> I agree that the Hillborne and Bleriot feel very different.  
>>
>> Thank you
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 9:21:36 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> The Bleriot was essentially a more affordable version of the Saluki 
>>> which was the 650B country bike at the time. It was more affordable based 
>>> on factory and business deals alone. It was a great bike. From what I 
>>> understand the AHH was the same as the Saluki but available in both 650B 
>>> and 700C.  The AHH is the reason that the Saluki was removed as a standard 
>>> line model.  All of that is based on the older Japanese AHH. The new one 
>>> has a longer wheelbase, sloping top tube and various other changes that all 
>>> make the geometry fairly different. So as far as "purpose" the AHH and 
>>> Bleriot are the same but as far as the geometry and how they ride I bet 
>>> they are going to feel pretty different. I had a Bleriot, currently have a 
>>> Saluki and owned a Hillborne. The current AHH is probably way closer to the 
>>> Hillborne than the Bleriot and I can say for sure that the Hillborne was a 
>>> very different feeling ride compared to the Bleriot/Saluki.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 6:37:51 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Other than sloping TT and a bit longer wheelbase I wonder how different 
>>>> these will ride.  I have a same with fat tires and I know these are 
>>>> supposed to be close but I wonder.  
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Joel. 
>>>>
>>>

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