It was partly weight and mostly a poor quality control issue that left a 
bad taste for the jones. The weight mattered when it was more than my rack 
could handle. I have a better rack now. Just enjoying the ride is why I’d 
buy one of these. 

On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 5:09:25 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> If you found your *enjoyable Jones too heavy to be enjoyabl*e .... you'll 
> likely find the same with a Gus/Susie. Or just give up the ghost of 
> weighing and comparing bikes and just ride and enjoy them for what they 
> are...... a means for The Ride !   
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:40:43 AM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:
>
>> I’ve been riding my Gus for a year now. It’s taken some time to warm up 
>> to it, but having  ridden through the fall and now into winter I am loving 
>> it. It definitely feels heavy, but when I want a ride without windchill, a 
>> bike that can plow through water, mud, over roots, basically thru anything 
>> Maine offers, it is my go to bike. A peppy ride? Not how I would describe 
>> it. Strong and stable? Yes! Fun? Absolutely! Just yesterday I rode across 
>> deep frozen mud and felt confident, The bike hardly shifted. (I also ride 
>> 2.6 tires). Hope this helps in your decision.  ~Bill
>>
>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:22:49 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> If you speak with anyone at Riv, I believe he will tell you what he 
>>> really believes is best, not a “sales” job. 
>>>
>>> I’ve called about a red Roscoe Bubbe to have a Joe Appaloosa (purchased 
>>> from a dealer instead of direct; they would have made more money with a 
>>> full Rosco build) suggested instead.  I’ve called about a Cheviot to be 
>>> told I should wait a few years until their newer model (which became the 
>>> Platypus) comes out. I’ve been extremely happy heeding their advice. 
>>>
>>> Good luck with your first Riv
>>>
>>> Roberta 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 1:48:43 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all! Long time Riv admirer. But, I always hesitate long enough to 
>>>> miss out on buying one. 
>>>>
>>>> I ride a Chumba Ursa mountain bike. It tows my daughter, grocery runs, 
>>>> any trail ever. I ride the bike mellow in my opinion, but I’ve been told 
>>>> maybe I’m more aggressive than I feel. Jumps are common when a water bar 
>>>> is 
>>>> good, even fully loaded. But they are always a smooth landing. I ride a 
>>>> 29x2.6 and find it great for most terrain. Snow is rare but not something 
>>>> I 
>>>> don’t ride in. I had an LWB Jones complete and very much enjoyed the bike. 
>>>> But, 37lbs without saddle or pedals was my first time feeling like a bike 
>>>> is too heavy to be fun. And it was the shortest lived bike I’ve ever had. 
>>>> I’ve never felt that disc brakes were an upgrade really. For reference, I 
>>>> am 6’1” 170lbs. 90 PBH puts me between sizes on the upper end so that is 
>>>> always nice to hear what others prefer!
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, am I a Riv candidate? With the Gus And Susie pre sale starting 
>>>> soon I wanted to ask the group opinion. I will call them and I’m sure they 
>>>> can sell me that I am. But that’s their job. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to anyone who has some insight, I appreciate it in advance!
>>>>
>>>>

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