At the risk of derailing the topic (pun semi-intended) the lack of IGH 
support on Rivs has become an issue for me. I had a Gus in my cart when 
they went on sale recently - my size, my color - but ultimately didn’t go 
through with it because I really like the Rohloff that I have on my Bike 
Friday. I know it’s possible to kludge it, but I’d prefer to have a bike 
that has the proper dropouts and brazeons to begin with. Anybody know of a 
maker who offers a frame with Hillibike features that’s designed to 
accommodate an IGH and disc brakes? The Tumbleweed Prospector and Surly 
Ogre come close but don’t have the long wheelbase. Riv’s designs are 
influential so I suppose it’s only a matter of time…

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 2:15:46 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Is it true that Grant has designed a new hillibike frame built around an 
> IGH? And that he's designing a new "Silver" line of IHG 2 speed fixed and 
> 3, 4, and 5 speed close, medium, and wide ratio hubs, called HilliHubs? 
> (Or, it might be HilliHubBubs).
>
> No, it's not true, but it's fun to imagine it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:44 AM nlerner <lern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 12:45:51 AM UTC-5 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>
>>> I do believe you’re correct, at least I’ve never heard of one. I’ve 
>>> considered building up a Sturmey-hubbed 3spd wheel for my FJ, but finding a 
>>> nice 120mm OLD hub has been frustrating. Still keeping an eye out for one, 
>>> though.
>>>
>>
>> Hi, no need for a new hub. You can swap in a 6 1/4” axle (Sturmey part # 
>> HSA.108) on any AW hub and fit it to a frame with a 120mm rear end. You 
>> usually do also need a bit longer indicator to make up for the longer 
>> spindle. Here’s an axle for sale (not mine, just the result of a Google 
>> search):
>>
>>
>> https://www.hoopriderparts.com/product/sturmey-archer-hsa107-hsa108-axle-for-aw-ab-ag-hubs-5-34in-or-6-14in---nos
>>  
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Neal Lerner
>> Brookline MA USA
>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks awesome!  I love the Frank Jones Sr - and dream of building one 
>>>> up with Sturmey drum brake hubs, 3spd - I think this is the only caliper 
>>>> brake SS bike from Riv (correct me if I'm wrong!) so it's the ideal 
>>>> candidate... 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 25 December 2021 at 06:29:46 UTC-8 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After innumerable changes, I’m finally happy with the way FJ is set up 
>>>>> (yeah, I know). I have a Sam (caliper brakes) I need to devote some 
>>>>> attention to, and I’m still modding my old Bianchi Milano after 23 years, 
>>>>> lol. The FJ is a wonderful, simple, speedy frame, and after kitting it 
>>>>> out 
>>>>> with various wheel and tire combinations, single and double gearing, 
>>>>> racks, 
>>>>> bags, bells, and other assorted junk (for this bike, not all), I’m down 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> the minimal approach. Rims and hubs are VO, DT Swiss spokes, Soma tires, 
>>>>> PDW fenders (the best, truly), Tektro brakes, VO cranks, WI ENO 
>>>>> freewheel, 
>>>>> Nitto stem and bars, Brooks saddle, and VO bag. Zoom-zoom!
>>>>> [image: 5D679D5E-81DC-4D9D-8BCC-6506231289C2.jpeg] 
>>>>>
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