Thank you, Pat; this is the one. REI is out and I don't see it on other
sites, but I'll keep looking.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:33 AM Pat Smith <pbsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for
> groceries. It used to come in red. I've got one in red
>
> https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
>>
>> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an
>> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by
>> about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design,
>> and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such
>> similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or
>> perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers.
>> (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the
>> time.)
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that
>>> much processing power. But check 'em out!
>>>
>>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>>
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