Hi Grant--thanks for jumping in.  I can confirm your statements--I have three 
Rivs, a Heron road, a Rambouillet and a Saluki and the seat tube angles and top 
tube lengths vary but they all fit the same (very well) with drops.  Same bars 
(Noodles) and the stem extensions are within a cm of each other...
 
Steve

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Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:54 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars


> It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells
> frames are not designed for drop bars.  With the long top tubes you
> need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach.

UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso.

The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people 
come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's like 
this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations:

Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes.

Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in that 
cat.

As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them 
longer (effectively, not literally).

Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem & we 
gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 
Centurion Ironman, etc.

I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't design a bike 
that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems for the size.

Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline funky, but 
that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9.

G
-- 
Grant 
Rivendell Bicycle Works
www.rivbike.com
925 933 7304






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