"No one asked, but I thought I'd share that the rear fender is mounted 
using these safety tabs 
<https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-safety-tabs>.
 
They look nice enough and allow for easy-enough wheel removal with the 
rear-facing dropouts. Handy for the (very) occasional hill out here on 
which I would enjoy 'shifting' from 44x16 to 44x19." 

I noticed that and for a moment thought you had them backwards, but this is 
an interesting idea! I use them with my front metal fender, but not the 
rear. (For that I have been using a Paul SS/Fixed hub that uses bolts, upon 
removal of which the wheel can be dropped out vertically. There are some 
other hubs that use a similar set-up. Retrogression sells many of them.) 

- Max "learn something new today" in A2

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> Thanks folks - truly an honor to get an 'APPROVE' from Bill! I'm a huge 
> fan of his whole stable, to the extent that he's shared it here or iBob 
> over the last few years... 
>
> I thought I really liked orange; but I think I prefer the QB in silver 
> now. Orange may be the fastest color but silver is the plane-iest!
>
> No one asked, but I thought I'd share that the rear fender is mounted 
> using these safety tabs 
> <https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-safety-tabs>.
>  
> They look nice enough and allow for easy-enough wheel removal with the 
> rear-facing dropouts. Handy for the (very) occasional hill out here on 
> which I would enjoy 'shifting' from 44x16 to 44x19.
>
> Patch
>
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:50:50 PM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:
>
>> That is a great story!  Only Riv's would have such a history!  Matt has 
>> my old green 58 and I'm currently on Jamisons old 62 so this is the 
>> carousel of QBs!
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 11:39:35 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Laing pointed out the FJSr has a "smaller diameter tube set".  
>>>
>>> It's just the downtube that is smaller diameter, but I agree with you 
>>> that the planing zealots should love that.  That said, the planing zealots 
>>> generally scoff at long chainstays and/or easily find other things to 
>>> complain about.  
>>>
>>> If that $1500 MSRP frameset was being sold used for $750, I'd grab it.  
>>> I don't think I could part out that $2800 build to get it down to $750 for 
>>> a F/F/HS.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:22:12 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would classify the FJ Sr as the Rivendell most likely to "plane" of 
>>>> any recent Rivendell bike doe to it's smaller diameter tube set, that is, 
>>>> if I had any idea what "planing" was. 
>>>>
>>>> Laing
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:11:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Doug, but that's out of my price range.  It may be naive of me, 
>>>>> but I think used-anything should be half-retail.  $2800 for that build 
>>>>> strikes me as a fair bit more than half retail, even though it is a 
>>>>> high-end build.  Add to that the fact that the FJ Senor has essentially 
>>>>> zero cult following.  Maybe it's collectors prices for the Paul Racer 
>>>>> brakes?  HAHA
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>> There is a 57 cm Frank Jones Sr. on eBay if that interests you. I'll 
>>>>>> post the link in case you hadn't seen it. 
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&toolid=20008&campid=5335981329&customid=with-subcat
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> APPROVE!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want a silver 58cm Quickbeam.  There's a green 60cm locally, but I 
>>>>>>> don't like British Racing Green on bikes.  I might end up with it 
>>>>>>> anyway, 
>>>>>>> but I'm not going to cry if somebody else buys it.  If that 60cm green 
>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>> a 58cm silver, I'd already have it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:28:48 AM UTC-8 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bunch,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We 
>>>>>>>> swapped. Photos.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all 
>>>>>>>> sorts of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow 
>>>>>>>> end 
>>>>>>>> of a toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, 
>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can 
>>>>>>>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so 
>>>>>>>> far) 
>>>>>>>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain 
>>>>>>>> Mixte. Or 
>>>>>>>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel 
>>>>>>>> named John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot 
>>>>>>>> about 
>>>>>>>> bikes and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years 
>>>>>>>> since 
>>>>>>>> - one thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I 
>>>>>>>> thought. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles 
>>>>>>>> used to frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in 
>>>>>>>> LA, 
>>>>>>>> or when I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd 
>>>>>>>> gladly 
>>>>>>>> purchase that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - 
>>>>>>>> however, he never let up. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in 
>>>>>>>> NYC, and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver 
>>>>>>>> Quickbeam - 
>>>>>>>> but in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a 
>>>>>>>> French 
>>>>>>>> fit, but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 
>>>>>>>> 56 
>>>>>>>> would fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He 
>>>>>>>> agreed, and we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me 
>>>>>>>> ship his 
>>>>>>>> to Black Magic Paint!) 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA 
>>>>>>>> crank, shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, 
>>>>>>>> dyno 
>>>>>>>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking 
>>>>>>>> slicks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily 
>>>>>>>> *more* comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a 
>>>>>>>> shorter stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of 
>>>>>>>> being 
>>>>>>>> *in* it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and 
>>>>>>>> different (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under 
>>>>>>>> $100.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patch
>>>>>>>> BK/NYC
>>>>>>>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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