Hi Joel, Thanks for your note and for the pics. I’d love it if you contacted Charlie on my behalf. It would be interesting to get more of the bike’s story. I believe the Yale student had a range of prices listed at various times, all the up to $2,500. We came to a fair agreement and everyone walked away pleased :)
Your Saluki is fantastic. Something about Salukis does it for me — the name of the basal breed and the head badge, the colors (I’ve seen them in “Hunqapillar green", silver, orange, yellow, and red), the cantis, the proportions. I would love to find one in a 59 or 60. If you ever hear of one for sale, please let me know! > On Feb 16, 2022, at 12:28 PM, 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch > <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > J J, the original owner had this frame that he never built up, a built up > Yves Gomez and some other bikes. He lives in a well to do town. He was > asking, if memory serves $2000 or so for the frame but sold it for $1600 (I > would have bought it for that). The Yale guy tried to sell it for over $2k > originally, no need for me to know what you paid, that is personal. I was > invited to see the bike but was concerned it would be too small and COVID was > raging at that time. As it turned out I think the size would have been fine. > His Yves Gomez was a 55cm and when I called Rivendell Will thought it would > too big. In the old days I rode a 56cm custom, a 55cm Bleriot among others. > Today with the new sizing I rode a 51cm Sam Hillborne and my new to me > Saluki. > The Bleriot was a tad large, not bad but a little and I rode it for quite a > while. I sold it about 2 months ago on the forum as I found a 54cm Saluki. > I had a 56cm Saluki when they came out but the TT was just to long for me > even with a short stem. I will attach a photo of my old and new for you. > > So that is what I know. I can contact Charlie (the original owner) if you > want to ask him questions to see if it is ok with him. > > Joel > > > Sent from ProtonMail for iOS > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 12:09 PM, J J <junes1ju...@gmail.com > <mailto:junes1ju...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks for your kind words, Joel. Yes! The seller mentioned he is a student >> at Yale. You've clearly looked into this. Do you know the story of the >> original owner? It's really just a curiosity, thinking about how many hands >> and places it passed through from the time it was built to the time it was >> first ridden. The seller told me he got it a while back from a man who had >> several frames that he had not built up.... or something like that. >> >> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:43:17 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: >> JJ, lovely build. I was interested in that frame but the price had me shy >> away. The original owner lives about 20 minutes from me. My recollection is >> that he sold it to a student at Yale. I should have negotiated, beautiful >> bike. If you decide to part with it please let me know. >> >> I hope your significant other gets great use from it. >> >> Joel >> >> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:08 PM, J J <junes...@gmail.com >> <applewebdata://13C47A38-0E9D-4963-B8E3-976737076A9A>> wrote: >>> Thanks for the tip, David. Let's see if it works here. Thanks for posting >>> the pic of your wife's beautiful bike again, mgstf5144. You should know >>> that your pic was part of the inspiration for buying the Wilbury. >>> >>> Joel, it's definitely that same bike, though it's not clear whether it was >>> flipped. The fellow did drive the bike in from CT to East Village. He was >>> really as nice as can be, and the negotiation was amicable and fair. He >>> showed me pics of his other Rivendells that he built up himself, including >>> a really special and beautiful Atlantis. >>> >>> I'd had my eyes on the Wilbury for more than a year, I think. It was >>> relisted every couple of months. The reticence about buying it was the >>> size. My partner is 5'1" and we were concerned about it being slightly too >>> large for her. We finally bought it on faith. I figured that if it did not >>> work for her, it would work for someone else. Once we had the frame in >>> hand, I contacted the lovely folks at Rivendell to ask for advice on sizing >>> and the build, and to buy components. We were eager to build it and ride. I >>> can't thank Will enough for his help with my many questions. He was >>> incredibly patient and generous with his time, and genuinely excited about >>> this unusual NOS frame. Will walked us through measuring things carefully: >>> PBH of course, seat tube length, saddle height of her previous bike, etc. >>> He asked for photos of her on the previous bike and about her riding style. >>> He consulted Grant about it, too. The advice was right on. In the end, we >>> were confident the size would be just right. And it was. We feel fortunate >>> to have gotten it and built it up. >>> >>> I mentioned that it appears to have been a custom paint job (Joe Bell?) >>> because I have never seen a Wilbury or Glorius frame in quite this light >>> blue color. Maybe others have, though. The soft color — and those lugs! — >>> are part of the bike's charm. I wonder if Rivendell still has a stash of >>> the crazy lugs. I believe Grant had said that once they ran out of the >>> lugs, that would be it and there would be no more custom Wilbury/Glorius >>> builds. >>> >>> The next big question was who going to put the bike together. There are >>> tons of bike shops in DC proper, but we had to find a shop that we were >>> totally confident in, and that was experienced with and genuinely "got" >>> Rivendell mechanically, aesthetically, and philosophically (to the extent >>> that there even is a cohesive Rivendell philosophy....), and that we >>> connected with. I was familiar with Mount Airy because I have perused its >>> website many times, dreaming of adding any number of bikes in their vast >>> inventory to my stable. But I had never been to the shop because it's a >>> one-hour drive from DC and traffic is usually gnarly getting out of the >>> city. Larry said that he had worked on Wilbury frames and many other >>> Rivendells, and that we had found a "true gem." Larry's shop is a veritable >>> bicycle paradise as far as I'm concerned. He, John, and Paul were so kind >>> and helpful. I'll certainly be frequenting the shop. I could not ask for >>> better. >>> >>> The photos will show that the build is definitely Rivendellesque. We still >>> need to add a few things — bar tape, a bell, a mirror, maybe different >>> grips. But as it is, it's fantastic. >>> >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if this was the one sold new from a CT seller and then the new >>> buyer tried to flip it. In any case enjoy your new bike. >>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 1:43 PM, mgst...@gmail.com <> <mgst...@gmail.com >>> <>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh! i see i posted the same thing a year ago...it's STILL a great bike! >>>> Hope you enjoy your new one. >>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:32:50 PM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com <> >>>> wrote: >>>> Here is my wife's Glorius, same era, custom color - >>>> It rides incredibly well - plush, but FAST >>>> She's had it since mid 2007 >>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:24:08 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com <> >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi J, regarding attaching pictures, the key is to make the file size isn't >>>> too large. Before attaching photos to my posts, I always resize them to >>>> something below 1mb. >>>> >>>> Would love to see pictures of the bike when you are able to put them up. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:38:36 AM UTC-8 J J wrote: >>>> Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I thought it would be fun to share the >>>> latest about this thread's mysterious subject. >>>> >>>> We bought the frameset in NYC a few months ago from a super nice fellow >>>> and brought it to DC. >>>> >>>> It was surreal to behold the light blue frame, as if it had just left the >>>> Toyo workshop in 2008. The paint seems to be custom, but who knows? >>>> >>>> I contacted Rivendell for size and component advice. Will was so generous >>>> with his time. >>>> >>>> I asked Will to recommend a shop in the greater DC area to build it. An >>>> MD-based customer told him to steer us toward Mount Airy Bicycle Company, >>>> owned by Larry, a "legend" in the community. >>>> >>>> After talking to Larry, it was a no-brainer. Mount Airy's vast collection >>>> of bikes and parts was mind-blowing. They did a superlative job on the >>>> build. >>>> >>>> If you ride around DC or NYC, you might run into us — a big green >>>> Hunqapillar and this fabulous Wilbury, whose saga continues. >>>> >>>> Not sure how to share pics here. 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