If the Rivendell model was available when I ordered this I may have went 
with it to get the 65 wide Toscos that only have a 31.8 clamp but I am not 
sure that it would have worked out for me based on the length. I am not 
sure I could get them low enough. I think that Riv stem and 65 Toscos is 
going to be a powerhouse combo though.

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 9:24:05 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The bear traps are really nice. There is something about the look of them 
> that really appealed to be and the options for some color is a huge plus. 
> They grip super well but also not to the extent that moving the foot is 
> difficult. My normal pedals have pins that are so super grippy that you are 
> practically locked in when you put your foot down. Its nice until you want 
> to slightly adjust and then you realize that sometimes things can be too 
> grippy. The bear traps are much better in that regard. I never tried the 
> Bubbly ones but they do look pretty similar. I prefer the rounded off look 
> of the bear traps (plus they are a touch cheaper which is always a plus).
>
> There are three stems similar to that new Blue Lug stem. The blue lug one 
> (of course), the new Rivendell IRD stem, and the Nitto MT-54S. They are all 
> tig welded steel.
>
> I have experience with the two nitto models (Blue Lug and MT) but have not 
> held or seen the new Rivendell version.  With that in mind this is what I 
> would suggest with them.
>
>    - If you need to clamp onto 31.8 bars then the Rivendell option is the 
>    only choice
>    - If you need to really raise the bars up then the Rivendell option is 
>    the best choice. The angle is larger and the stem length is much greater 
>    than the other two
>    - If you need a shorter extension then the Rivendell and Blue Lug 
>    options are the best bet. I would lean toward the Blue Lug one as it has 
>    more size options however if you need the extra height then pick the 
>    Rivendell
>    - The Nitto MT is the lightest. That's because the stem length is low. 
>    If you don't need that extra length or a shorter extension and are OK with 
>    the dull color this is a great option
>    - The nicest looking of the bunch (IMO) is the Blue Lug version. Its 
>    not a TON better than the MT but it IS nicer and its the only one that 
>    gives you a color choice
>    - The Blue Lug allows you to change the stem cap so you can add some 
>    flair. It looks like the Rivendell model should as well but I can't 
> confirm 
>    that. The MT does not
>
> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:39:04 AM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I actually never tried the bubblys! I didn't need them because I still 
>> had my monarchs that I took off my platypus, so I sold the bubblys before I 
>> could fall in love with them... what can I say, I'm fickle! I have to say I 
>> like the monarchs a lot too... 
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:34:01 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Sofie, did you not like your Bubbly pedals? Technically a bear trap, I 
>>> love mine. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Sofie C <sof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, I love everything about your Clem! How do you like those bear trap 
>>> pedals? I'm also intrigued by the nitto/blue lug stem you mention...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 9:05:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Ryan! I adore my Clem and I long for you to have one! 
>>>>
>>>> Clems are the heros of the Rivendell line. I was just discussing this 
>>>> with a RivSister. I was saying that anything goes with the Clem. Do 
>>>> whatever you want to it; it will never complain. Clems are good-natured 
>>>> and 
>>>> stalwart and will put up with all of your nonsense. I mean, just look at 
>>>> what I’ve put mine through! 
>>>>
>>>> All. The. Colors. Video and photo below.
>>>>
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