Paul, I always did wonder what motivated the bullmoose architecture... rod
On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 9:53:40 AM UTC-4 Paul M wrote: > When all else fails there is the bomb proof bullmoose style handlebar > > On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 05:57:23 UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > >> I had that same issue with Bosco bars on a Clem H. I tightened the bolt >> really tight and they still slipped then I tightened them a little tighter, >> more than I thought I should to the point that I thought surely something >> would bend. And that last creak of tightening did the trick. >> Doug >> >> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 5:44:52 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote: >> >>> Hooray Rod ! Leverage is a wonderful thing isn't it ? >>> >>> Sure, 4 bolt stems are easy-er to get tight(also to mess up), but I get >>> that many people still like the style of the Nitto road stems. While I too >>> found myself thinking "those bars are too long for that style of stem", in >>> reality that's not the case as bikes have had way-back bars of many variety >>> since the bicycle has existed and they all had single bolt stems. Picture a >>> basic 50's style cruiser with bars that went waaay back and wide on single >>> bolt stems. >>> >>> Having used multi-speed freewheels and Specialized/Campy hubs since >>> forever I got by removing the 12-28t variety with a seeming puny 10" >>> Crescent wrench until I got some Phil Wood hubs and larger 13-32t >>> freewheels. Those were a whole lot more difficult. I finally wised up and >>> bought a 24" breaker bar which makes removing them and bottom brackets >>> joyously easy. With that longer lever also comes it's judicious application >>> of force, often a lighter touch than you may think. Longer levers don't >>> *have* to be used the full length all the time, like a baseball bat you >>> can choke up as needed. Sometimes you swing for the fences, so to speak, >>> sometimes just to clear the shortstops reach. Same lever, many >>> applications. Always fun ! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 1:03:55 AM UTC-4 Rod Holland wrote: >>> >>>> So, after reading all the replies here, and finding previous threads on >>>> the same subject from 2018, I reached into a package of Hobson-Zingo Allen >>>> keys, recently purchased from Rivendell through some sort of bicycle >>>> karma, >>>> and pulled out a 6mm wrench with a 7" lever that was longer than any other >>>> 6mm tool within reach. I used that to loosen the Billie bars in the >>>> Technomic stem, repositioned the bars, then tightened them in place, using >>>> the leverage to maximum effect. >>>> [image: PXL_20220516_212908672.MP.jpg] >>>> >>>> The bars seemed secure (of course, that was also true before the first >>>> time they rotated, but time will tell). I took the Appaloosa out for a >>>> 20-mile shakedown ride, made sure I did a few things to challenge the >>>> handlebars, and was pleased with the fact that they seemed rock steady. >>>> Had >>>> a good ride, but came home and ordered a faceplate stem and a tube of >>>> carbon paste, just in case. And that Hobson-Zingo key is at least >>>> temporarily seconded to the Appaloosa's bag. Thanks to everyone for your >>>> help with this. >>>> [image: PXL_20220516_203310662.MP.jpg] >>>> >>>> rod >>>> >>>> Eastern Massachusetts >>>> >>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 8:48:35 PM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just want to say I experienced the same rotation also, which I did >>>>> *not* with the Albatrosses. I tried the tips from here which sort of >>>>> helped >>>>> but I eventually just switched to a 31.8 4 bolt threadless stem + >>>>> handlebar >>>>> shim + quill adapter. (Faceplaters are hard to source.) >>>>> >>>>> --Ed C. >>>>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:42:29 AM UTC-7 Rod Holland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last year, I bought one of the Web Specials, an Appaloosa set up with >>>>>> a 1x10 drivetrain, Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge Endurance tires, v brakes, >>>>>> and >>>>>> Billie bars. This arrived during our New England winter, and final >>>>>> assembly >>>>>> and first rides happened in January, during a break in the weather, >>>>>> after >>>>>> which the bike sat in the basement, at the end of of various queues, >>>>>> until >>>>>> yesterday, when I put it on the road, starting with a 25-mile mixed >>>>>> surface >>>>>> ride. >>>>>> [image: PXL_20220513_201728684.MP.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> The bike is set up for an upright riding posture, a bit of a >>>>>> departure for me. A bit more than halfway through the ride, I had to >>>>>> stop >>>>>> and dismount a little abruptly, and the Billie bars slipped in the >>>>>> Technomic stem, settling (apparently quite securely) into a roughly 45 ° >>>>>> angle. >>>>>> [image: PXL_20220513_211233095.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> I had just been speculating about how they might ride with a bit of >>>>>> downward deflection, so I got a chuckle out of that, and proceeded to >>>>>> ride >>>>>> towards home in a more aero posture. >>>>>> [image: PXL_20220513_211904103.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> I stopped in at my LBS, and they were good enough to restore the bars >>>>>> to their intended position on the spot. All went well until a block >>>>>> before >>>>>> my house, when, during braking, the bars slipped back to their previous >>>>>> droopy position. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll be taking the bike back in to the LBS next week. Question: has >>>>>> anyone else encountered this "self-adjusting" behavior with Billie bars >>>>>> in >>>>>> a Technomic stem? If so, what caused it? What cured it? >>>>>> >>>>>> V brakes are one of the elements of novelty to me in this build, and >>>>>> I've been trying to apply them gently, but suspect that in each case >>>>>> above >>>>>> my braking created a transient inertial load on the handlebars. >>>>>> >>>>>> rod >>>>>> >>>>>> Eastern Massachusetts >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1c4ed14c-24ef-43cd-9f65-e55bd21f15dan%40googlegroups.com.
