So it's here and I must say it looks awful !   (((( laughing )))))   While 
I recognize it from the Microshift catalog,  at least they don't need to be 
worrying over FD supply anytime soon, so three cheers for that ! 
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> grant did mention that aesthetically theyre nothing to write home about 
> so...don't get your hopes up.
>
>
> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 7:42:56 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Made by MicroShift but no model mention: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/early-april
>>
>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-7 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is probably some version of the IRD sub compact. 
>>>
>>> My last apartment had a side door that took a skeleton key. I had a box 
>>> of old keys and one worked on that door. I found another similar key and 
>>> filed it down to work, too. So that became the door we always used, because 
>>> why wouldn't I? This was just a few years ago. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> The reference of a "skeleton key" derailleur is a figure of speech, 
>>>> dontcha know ?  
>>>> You betcha it is .....
>>>> Referring to "one derailleur suitable for everything" ..... like a 
>>>> master key to open any lock, so to speak. The "everything" in this case 
>>>> refers to the bikes Riv designs, contracts, and configures for customers. 
>>>>
>>>> I emailed Grant a while ago about FD's and he mentioned the incoming FD 
>>>> was a model that they had sold before, that took 48-50 tooth rings. So if 
>>>> anyone has a good memory or archive it would reveal itself. So no, it 
>>>> won't 
>>>> be some odd doohickey to move the chain around !
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:53:31 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's probably an actual skeleton key similar to the stick shift method 
>>>>> they used to espouse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair winds,
>>>>>
>>>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 2:24 PM Joe Mullins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m not sure if I missed it but does anyone know what these 
>>>>>> derailleurs look like?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe in Los Angeles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Conway Bennett <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find front derailleurs tedious to setup, and I rarely *need* them.  
>>>>>> Advent X is the best solution in my opinion.  But I also live in th 
>>>>>> second 
>>>>>> flattest state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the March 18th email update, Rivendell reported that the 
>>>>>>> container full of frames would also contain *1400 Front Derailers*.  
>>>>>>> They indicated this model will work with all their bikes, but they 
>>>>>>> didn't 
>>>>>>> say exactly what it is, giving it the nickname "skeleton key".  I 
>>>>>>> wonder 
>>>>>>> how much space 1,400 front derailers will take up.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those who don't know what's special about "Rivendell Front 
>>>>>>> Derailers", it's a combination of a few things:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Rivendells typically have a bit more BB drop than most other bikes
>>>>>>> 2. Rivendell builds often have a small-sized "big" chainring.  Like 
>>>>>>> a 42 big ring, or a 38, or a 34!
>>>>>>> 3. Rivendells typically have a more laid back Seat Tube Angle than 
>>>>>>> most other bikes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the combination of those three things brings the trailing edge of 
>>>>>>> the front derailer down close to the chainstays.  So close, that in 
>>>>>>> many 
>>>>>>> cases you flat out can't set up the front derailer "correctly".  You 
>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>> to run it floating way above the chainrings.  For a lot of people, this 
>>>>>>> works just fine, and some people actually brag about it.  When somebody 
>>>>>>> claims that Combination X is a problem, it's fun to retort "I have 
>>>>>>> Combination X and it's just fine!"  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyhow, 650B bikes have less of this problem (because less BB 
>>>>>>> drop).  Still, it's something to think about.  I prepared by stocking 
>>>>>>> up on 
>>>>>>> Shimano CX70 Front Derailers when they existed, and now I'm super 
>>>>>>> stingy 
>>>>>>> with those.  I'm going to give the "skeleton key" FD a look and may buy 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> few of those also.  As an amateur machinist and maker, I've even 
>>>>>>> dabbled 
>>>>>>> with making my own Front Derailers.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or, you can avoid this altogether and run a 1xDrivetrain!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>>
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