Garth said the skeleton key front derailer looks awful. Awful looks are in the eye of the beholder, HAHA. I like the look of it very much. I especially like the compact and simple cage. The clamp material looks like it would be fun to modify and personalize. $32 and available are also very attractive attributes. I'll grab a couple of them, and have a few plans for them.
Have a look: Derailer - Front - Stubby Skeleton Key – Rivendell Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) <https://www.rivbike.com/products/derailer-front-stubby-skeleton-key> Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:10:59 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote: > So it's here and I must say it looks awful ! (((( laughing ))))) While > I recognize it from the Microshift catalog, at least they don't need to be > worrying over FD supply anytime soon, so three cheers for that ! > On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 9:46:34 PM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote: > >> grant did mention that aesthetically theyre nothing to write home about >> so...don't get your hopes up. >> >> >> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 7:42:56 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Made by MicroShift but no model mention: >>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/early-april >>> >>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-7 E. Ricky Creek wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> It is probably some version of the IRD sub compact. >>>> >>>> My last apartment had a side door that took a skeleton key. I had a box >>>> of old keys and one worked on that door. I found another similar key and >>>> filed it down to work, too. So that became the door we always used, >>>> because >>>> why wouldn't I? This was just a few years ago. >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: >>>> >>>>> The reference of a "skeleton key" derailleur is a figure of speech, >>>>> dontcha know ? >>>>> You betcha it is ..... >>>>> Referring to "one derailleur suitable for everything" ..... like a >>>>> master key to open any lock, so to speak. The "everything" in this case >>>>> refers to the bikes Riv designs, contracts, and configures for customers. >>>>> >>>>> I emailed Grant a while ago about FD's and he mentioned the incoming >>>>> FD was a model that they had sold before, that took 48-50 tooth rings. So >>>>> if anyone has a good memory or archive it would reveal itself. So no, it >>>>> won't be some odd doohickey to move the chain around ! >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:53:31 PM UTC-4 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's probably an actual skeleton key similar to the stick shift >>>>>> method they used to espouse. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Fair winds, >>>>>> >>>>>> Captain Conway Bennett >>>>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022, 2:24 PM Joe Mullins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m not sure if I missed it but does anyone know what these >>>>>>> derailleurs look like? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe in Los Angeles >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Conway Bennett < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I find front derailleurs tedious to setup, and I rarely *need* them. >>>>>>> Advent X is the best solution in my opinion. But I also live in th >>>>>>> second >>>>>>> flattest state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the March 18th email update, Rivendell reported that the >>>>>>>> container full of frames would also contain *1400 Front Derailers*. >>>>>>>> They indicated this model will work with all their bikes, but they >>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>> say exactly what it is, giving it the nickname "skeleton key". I >>>>>>>> wonder >>>>>>>> how much space 1,400 front derailers will take up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those who don't know what's special about "Rivendell Front >>>>>>>> Derailers", it's a combination of a few things: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Rivendells typically have a bit more BB drop than most other >>>>>>>> bikes >>>>>>>> 2. Rivendell builds often have a small-sized "big" chainring. Like >>>>>>>> a 42 big ring, or a 38, or a 34! >>>>>>>> 3. Rivendells typically have a more laid back Seat Tube Angle than >>>>>>>> most other bikes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the combination of those three things brings the trailing edge of >>>>>>>> the front derailer down close to the chainstays. So close, that in >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> cases you flat out can't set up the front derailer "correctly". You >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> to run it floating way above the chainrings. For a lot of people, >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> works just fine, and some people actually brag about it. When >>>>>>>> somebody >>>>>>>> claims that Combination X is a problem, it's fun to retort "I have >>>>>>>> Combination X and it's just fine!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyhow, 650B bikes have less of this problem (because less BB >>>>>>>> drop). Still, it's something to think about. I prepared by stocking >>>>>>>> up on >>>>>>>> Shimano CX70 Front Derailers when they existed, and now I'm super >>>>>>>> stingy >>>>>>>> with those. I'm going to give the "skeleton key" FD a look and may >>>>>>>> buy a >>>>>>>> few of those also. As an amateur machinist and maker, I've even >>>>>>>> dabbled >>>>>>>> with making my own Front Derailers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or, you can avoid this altogether and run a 1xDrivetrain! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/661f1e87-ecfa-4a25-bbba-1ca93aa02b4an%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/661f1e87-ecfa-4a25-bbba-1ca93aa02b4an%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Xzn8OuQ7LeE/unsubscribe >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/F17F096F-92CD-4738-AC47-A2C7DF9F8783%40gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/F17F096F-92CD-4738-AC47-A2C7DF9F8783%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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