On Saturday, 6 August 2022 at 1:26:16 am UTC+10 George Schick wrote:

> Interestingly, I have either B-17's or a Flyer on all but one of my bikes 
> and I ride them without issue.  The 4th one, however, has a Team Pro, 
> probably the narrowest of the Brooks saddles and whenever I ride that one I 
> begin to develop similar problems, probably piriformis or related.  
> Similarly, in the past when I switched one of the B-17's out for a B-17 
> Narrow I rode it for a couple hundred miles and just could not get past the 
> same kind of discomfort as with the Team Pro.  So, there may indeed be 
> something to this saddle type, width, etc. issue.


I have B-17s on a couple of bikes, but over the last few years I've started 
using the Berthoud Vars/Aubisque/Mente saddles on new bikes that I build. 
The Vars/Aubisque/Mente have exactly the same top (5mm wider than B-17),  
and I find them most comfortable saddles I've ever sat on. In descending 
order of price, the Vars has Ti rails and can be disassembled if parts need 
replacing, the Aubisque is the same but with stainless steel rails, the 
Mente also has stainless steel rails but the top is riveted on.

XXCycle seems to have about the best price on them.

Nick

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