Phillip, I agree on what you say. I am hoping the calf pain and maybe even the thigh pain are a resurgence of the sciatica that was 90+% gone after my last surgery 10 years ago. I have one doc who is in agreement so far that the screw has to come out and am waiting for a second opinion appt, but either way I know it has to go. The pain that never resolved was a mild pain in my butt when in my recliner which had gotten worse before the thigh and calf pain. Maybe my knee blowing up is coincidence, I prefer to have the screw removed than another knee replacement (my right leg one was not a great success, better but not better enough). This is something I had not thought of “ Theorizing here that perhaps the nerve/sciatica is causing the body to twist which in turn is irritating the IT band and causing the knee pain” and makes a lot of sense to me.
Thanks for reading my note thoroughly……. Joel Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 10:01 AM, Philip Barrett <philiprbarr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Joel, I reread your post a couple of times and the 2 things that jumped out > at me were the IT band and the MRI. If a nerve is being impinged you've > hopefully found your issue and either way that surely needs to be addressed > prior to anything else (including PT)? That nerve (and sciatica) would also > point to the calf pain as the IT band does not extend past the lower knee. > > What I have discovered is that our bodies will perform some clever > physiological tricks to try & avoid pain at all costs and will stress other > areas in doing so at which point it becomes difficult to isolate effect from > underlying root cause. Theorizing here that perhaps the nerve/sciatica is > causing the body to twist which in turn is irritating the IT band and causing > the knee pain. > > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:42:57 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: > >> Hi Paul, thanks for your input. >> >> I am working with a sports medicine group and their physical therapists. I >> will be 71 next week so anytime off the bike is stolen time and I only have >> a limited about of time living in the northeast. I have some days to see how >> my knee treatment will work, I am hopeful, as far as my calf pain that may >> be a very different thing and I will have to figure that one out. I have a >> feeling it is coming from my knee not my back some time will tell. >> >> In any event slow and easy is the way I am going with this as I have few >> options and I really do want to be able to ride in the fall. >> >> Thanks again. My knees have bothered me since I was in my late 40's, had one >> replaced in 2018, not great but better than the other one at the moment. I >> don't mind some pain as long as I can still function. >> >> Thanks again >> >> Joel >> >> Sent with[ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com)Secure Email. >> >> Always keep it safe. >> >> Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. >> >> ------- Original Message ------- >> >> On Sunday, August 7th, 2022 at 2:03 PM, Paul Clifton <paulgc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Joel, >>> I've had knee pain for 25 years on and off and relatively recently have had >>> some hip/quad/glute pain that sounds vaguely similar to yours. I haven't >>> had any surgery or steroid or cortisone or anything like that though, so I >>> can't comment much specifically. But I can encourage you to stick with the >>> PT; it's really the only thing that has ever helped me - repeat visits to >>> the same person who can assess my strength and mobility and adjust my >>> program as I progress. >>> >>> The main thing I'm learning as I approach 40 is that I need to take it slow >>> and not re-injure myself while I'm rebuilding my strength. I turned 39 a >>> week ago and start PT again 3 weeks before that for this >>> hip/glute/back/quad stuff. I'm giving myself the next year to get my >>> strength, mobility, and mileage back to where it was when I was 30. From >>> your story, (filtered though my own experience so grain of salt ...) it >>> sounds like you had something kinda minor that you then aggravated a few >>> more times without adding in restorative movements. >>> >>> IME it's normal for the first day or two of PT to be very hard and make me >>> pretty sore, but if that persists, maybe try a different PT or at least ask >>> for something lighter and build up to whatever they have you doing now. >>> Also, I've found that working with and actual Doctor of Physical Thereapy >>> is a LOT LOT LOT better than someone with a fewer qualifications. And >>> physical therapists focusing on sports injuries may be better than the ones >>> that focus mainly on recovery from surgery or others (although a good doc >>> should be able to do both). >>> >>> Any way, here's to minimal pain for all of us in the future, >>> Paul "life is pain" in AR >>> >>> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 9:25:32 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote: >>> >>>> In mid May I had a mishap, my leg lost it’s stability for a moment while >>>> on line for a light to change. Some knee pain. Waited 2 dats and rode with >>>> a knee support, all was ok but knee pain persisted. Rode the next day and >>>> my knee blew up. Within a day I started having pain that I thought was >>>> sciatica. A bit of pain in my butt but that has been with me for years >>>> after my second back surgery. New was a burning pain going down mostly the >>>> outside of my thigh and also my calf. Went to knee doc, PA gave me a >>>> cortisone injection to bring down the swelling in my knee. No help. Went >>>> back 3 weeks later and the doc gave me a medro pak. Took for a week, not >>>> real difference. A week later (which means it was not from the steroid) >>>> the burning stopped and I felt ok. On July 3 I rode around the block, all >>>> was ok. On July 4 I went for a short 8 mile ride, got home and pain in >>>> thigh and calf got very bad but no burning. Have used ice and heat and >>>> both offered temporary help. I had an upcoming visit with my pain doc as I >>>> was preparing for a RFA (Coolief) treatment in that knee. He thought (and >>>> I had researched before) that the thigh pain could be from the IT Band. He >>>> was not confident on the cause of the calf pain, knee, back? >>>> >>>> Before my Coolief treatment on Friday I went to MA general with a new MRI >>>> of my lumbar area. I have known there is a screw that seems to be abutting >>>> a nerve and needs to come out. >>>> I started physical therapy on Wednesday and the guy killed me but if it >>>> would help……. I am doing stretches and hoping the Coolief treatment will >>>> address the calf pain as I do not want another knee replacement as the >>>> first one I had never seemed to do very well. Better yes but I still have >>>> pain and limits. >>>> >>>> Itching to ride again…… >>>> >>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Joel >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5juG3N-K4i0/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d34b9b2e-00dd-47c2-80bd-62775bcb4b24n%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d34b9b2e-00dd-47c2-80bd-62775bcb4b24n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5juG3N-K4i0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9a807547-e313-4231-82f9-5a0b5594eeafn%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9a807547-e313-4231-82f9-5a0b5594eeafn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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