Got this today in email from Acorn bags:

*Hi everyone,*

*Our BLACK WAXED CANVAS 
<https://campaign-statistics.com/link_click/zLoYY6y0pz_mJPtM/7257b163c2241b0cda6fee9d94d3ef72>
 bags 
will be restocked—in limited quantities—this Wednesday, August 31, at 
approx. 9am Pacific Time. 
(Please note that our upcoming Trunk Bag is not 
included in this batch.) ....*
*https://www.acornbags.com*

I have a few of the medium Acorn saddle bags and like them a lot for their 
size, waxed canvas material and construction. The larger, transverse 
version looks good but I have no experience with it. 
The old Swift, small Zeitgeist is a big improvement over the Carradice 
Barley I have and my small BxB "Nino" is beautifully designed and made.
I have the Outer Shell Basket Bag but I don't use a basket. It mounts 
nicely on a front rack, especially one of the wider ones and has a lot of 
structure. It is really well thought out with a lot of features. 
I usually leave the side stiffeners in the bag but not in their 
compartments. It allows the bag to be more compact and carried more easily 
if not full.

David Lipsky  - -  Berkeley, CA

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 11:57:49 AM UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> My name is Mike and I have a bike luggage problem...
>
> I own many of the bags already mentioned and a couple not discussed yet so 
> here's my 2-cents:
>
> I currently have 3 Swift Zeitgeist bags - a first generation in custom 
> colors and a couple newer ones, and for a good, durable, fairly lightweight 
> saddlebag they are fantastic. My only (very minor) complaint is that the 
> newer ones take longer to get in and out of - there's the outer 2 buckles, 
> an inner buckled cinch strap, and the cord-lock bag cinch. The older models 
> didn't have the single inner cinch strap, which is otherwise an improvement 
> as it pulls the bottom of the bag up some, depending on how loaded it is. I 
> do wish they still shipped with the leather buckle straps instead of the 
> Voile straps everyone (except Carradice and Acorn) seems to be going to 
> these days, but I may be in the minority with that opinion. I also own a 
> Swift Catalyst, and if you want a bag smaller than the Zeitgeist and can do 
> without the side pockets, it's basically a smaller Zeitgeist (Swift used to 
> make the Zeitgeist in 2 sizes). One advantage to the Catalyst - Swift's 
> intention I think - is that the Catalyst mounts well to even fairly narrow 
> handlebars too. Someone mentioned MUSA as a plus on Swift bags, but last 
> year they switched production overseas to standard bags in standard colors, 
> which I assume means the Zeitgeist is now sewn in Asia.
>
> I also own 2 Carradice bags, a Camper Longflap and Nelson Longflap. The 
> Camper was my first touring saddlebag and has thousands of miles in 
> year-round PNW  commuting and other than fading is still in great shape. 
> The waxed canvas is heavier than the Swift bags, but that's never been an 
> issue for me, and the longflap is incredibly useful when overfilling the 
> bag or strapping a sleeping pad or tent or fly rod to the bag.
>
> I own a large Fabios Chest - from when they were still made by Swift - and 
> it's like a super-sized version of the Zeitgeist with a rolltop instead of 
> cordlock cinch AND a longflap. If one was looking for a true 
> load-everything-including-the-kitchen-sink bag this would be the one. FYI I 
> run it on the front (Jones Bars) of my Bantam AdventureBike, and with a 
> Carradice Longflap on the rear and a couple fork-mounted King Manything 
> cages I can carry all my bikepacking gear without an inner triangle frame 
> bag (I hate frame bags).
>
> Another bag I REALLY like is the locally made (Portland area) Jack Supply 
> Slugger bag. https://www.jacksupplyco.com/ Similar to the Swift Zeitgeist 
> but with a rolltop closure, extendable flap, and more exterior lash points. 
> I've also run this as a handlebar bag, though I prefer the Little Slugger 
> for that use. And these definitely are MUSA.
>
> Finally, the OP mentioned running a Wald basket and looking for a 
> saddlebag as well. I use a Swift Sugarloaf in one Wald basket, and an 
> Outershell Basket-bag https://outershell.com/shop/137-basket-bag in the 
> other. The thing I like about the Basket-bag is that it's basically a rando 
> bag for your basket, with a lid that opens out so you can access the 
> interior while riding, and a clear map pocket. Also MUSA (California) and 
> really thoughtfully designed and well-made.
>
> Final note - I'm smallish and ride smallish frames, and for ALL the 
> saddlebags mentioned I run some kind of support rack - Erlen, Nitto, 
> Bagman, Tailfeather 
> http://derick-paulson.squarespace.com/tailfeather/tailfeather, And the 
> Fabs chest on my Bantam is supported by a front rack custom made for that 
> bike.
>
> Many of the setups can be seen on my Flickr pages 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/albums
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:20:56 PM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>
>> Hi all - I'm new to the group and figured you all would have opinions on 
>> "the best all-around useful saddle bag," if you could only own one.
>>
>> For context, I ride a Bridgestone CB-0 set up with a front rack and Wald 
>> basket. This is great, but I sometimes wish for a little more capacity in 
>> the form of a bag. Based on Rivendell's site, the Bagboy or the Happisack 
>> seem to fit this "all-around useful" purpose and size. I mostly ride around 
>> town but want to do some overnights this summer as well.
>>
>> Would you recommend definitely getting one over the other? I'm also 
>> looking at the Swift Zeitgeist or Catalyst.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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