Just wanted to check in. I've been using the SIlver 1 shifters as bar ends for a while. Overall, things were good, but I did have some ghost shifting under torque and something just seemed less than precise. For the record, I've been using my Ultegra 6500 RD with a hanger extender to get up to a 32 on the back.
I took my bike to my list member Jason's house to use his hanger alignment tool. It was a little better, but still had some issues with ghost shifting under torque. I noticed that there was a little left-right play in the derailleur hanger bolt interface. So, I happened to have a 105 R7000 RD (11 speed) kicking around. I put that on with no idea if it would work. Surprise, it works really well. Silver 1 shifter, 11 speed RD, 8 speed cassette, 9 speed chain. I was still getting occasional ghost shifting, especially on larger cogs. Much better, but still not perfect. I felt like there was stil a little cable play and imprecision on the rear... Like it sometimes settled into a position. It was raining today, so just for fun I mounted the shifters on the downtube again. I'm getting pretty quick at this. The improvement felt dramatic to me. I'm using off brand shift housing, and I don't know how well the housing is sitting in the shifter pods. I just have a feeling that something is amiss in that the pod to housing to cable stop interface. So, I'll roll with this for a while until if and when I get annoyed by something. I'll pull my cable housing from under the tape and try some kind of alternate routing if I get restless on the next rainy day. Now I'mjust having fun. Cheers! Ben On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:33:47 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote: > With the Shimano's I find I often shift with the lever between my pinkie > and ring finger. Almost effortless and one of those things one does > without thinking. > > > On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:14:15 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> I can't comment on the Shimano comparison but I've used Silver1 and 2 as >> bar-ends and liked that long blade better. The way you can drop your whole >> hand and pull up on the ratcheting direction with your two rear fingers >> (pinkie and the other one) can't be beat for friction shifting. >> >> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Adding to Ben's comments. I've been running Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed >>> bar ends on my bikes for awhile, in friction mode. Recently wanted to see >>> what, if any, difference Silver2 shifter would be. So last week I >>> purchased one Silver2 lever for the rear to try on one bike. Yes, had to >>> use my Dremel to shave off the little nub on the Shimano pod, which doesn't >>> affect the ability to go back to using the Shimano shift lever. After a >>> few days of riding with the Silver2 lever the verdict is in and I've >>> switched back to the Shimano lever. Smoother operation and more >>> comfortable ergonomics, in my opinion. >>> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote: >>> >>>> I love this conversation and have learned alot from it. I'm not the >>>> only one to be bothered w/cable routing, etc. There is no perfect >>>> solution >>>> - long cables, impaired shifting, down tube or stem shifters... I have >>>> bar >>>> ends (friction) on albatross bars and long cables which sometimes get in >>>> the way of closing my front >>>> >>>> bag. [image: fanny.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:57:10 PM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Since I didn't REALLY want to mangle the pods, I decided to dremed the >>>>> square centered washer spacers. A few minutes carefullt carving on each >>>>> and >>>>> I got the stopper washers to fit over the indexing alignment bump. >>>>> >>>>> Here's hoping for the best on my ride this evening. >>>>> I really live in a charmed world... Amixing shifting on the downtube >>>>> where I have to lean dow a couple inches vs quick-access bar end with >>>>> MAYBE >>>>> a bit of bonus friction from the housing. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The half-round function is to locate the indexing function of the >>>>>> indexing shifters correctly. Not strictly necessary, but it makes it >>>>>> impossible to install an indexing shifter incorrectly - idiot proofing. >>>>>> It >>>>>> is easily removed with a file or Dremel to allow silver or Dia-Compe >>>>>> friction shifters to be installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Laing >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 1:00:01 PM UTC-4 >>>>>> bunny...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> More shifter nerd talk! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Attemped to mount the silver shifter onto the shimano pod this >>>>>>> morning and ran into a snag. Many of you probably know this, but if >>>>>>> not, >>>>>>> here's the deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a photo of the Shimano Pod. Thanks Park Tool! >>>>>>> https://www.parktool.com/assets/img/repairhelp/barendshifter44.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a little extra half-circle of metal on the little square >>>>>>> area where one fits a spacer/washer. The shimano spacer fits right over >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> The standard square-hole washer does not. Riv obviously knows ths=is >>>>>>> because their silver pods do not have this half-circle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only reason I can fathom why this is there is to make the >>>>>>> Shimano pods not be compatible wiuth other bands of shift levers. They >>>>>>> probably don't want people futzing around. I believe I can dremel that >>>>>>> half-circle off and fit my washer, and it will also not affect the >>>>>>> shimano >>>>>>> performance in any way if I want to put the Shimano shifters back on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For now, I will remain a downtube shifter user and see if/when I go >>>>>>> crazy ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am with you Ben! First 20+ mile ride with the Silver thumbie >>>>>>>> rear. Shifting is buttery smooth - love it! It is so responsive & >>>>>>>> precise >>>>>>>> feeling. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Ben Adrian <bunny...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pointless updates because I just like talking bikes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ever since I rerouted my cables, my performance has been very good. >>>>>>>> However, I've never tried any of the Suntour/Silver ratchet shifters >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I've always been curious. I found a used set here so I grabbed them. I >>>>>>>> gently removed my rear derailleur cable, wrapped the cable and >>>>>>>> housing, and >>>>>>>> tied it down to my rack. Then I mounted the SIlver shifter to the DT >>>>>>>> boss >>>>>>>> an ran the a new rear cable to the RD. WOw, these are really nice. And >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> direct cable run gives me the smoothest performance yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So now... set up the front and leave it as a DT shifter bike, or >>>>>>>> try mounting the Silvers on my Shimano pods and do full friction >>>>>>>> bar-end? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 7:42:14 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do a half and half set up with my Roadini - Silver One levers, >>>>>>>>> front shifter on the downtube and rear shifter on an IRD stem mount. >>>>>>>>> You >>>>>>>>> can just leave out the left threaded insert from the stem mount for a >>>>>>>>> neater appearance >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>> bunny...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey all! Just looking for some gear chat. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a Rambouillet with drop bars. I'm finally getting >>>>>>>>>> everything comfortable, but I've been around the block with my >>>>>>>>>> shifters. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My bike came with 8 speed bar end shifters. However, when I did >>>>>>>>>> my first configuration I mounted them on the downtube. They worked >>>>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>>>> It was kind of a bummer to reach down, but I went with it because I >>>>>>>>>> loved >>>>>>>>>> the simplicity and getting the cables off the handlebars. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After a while I decided to put them back in the bar ends. I had >>>>>>>>>> previously used bar ends for a long time, so it felt like home. >>>>>>>>>> However, I >>>>>>>>>> have a front Mark's rack with a basket and the derailleur cables >>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>> always getting in the way of the front stuff. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I just ran the cables fully under the bar tape and that >>>>>>>>>> install works great to get stuff out of the way, but now my shifting >>>>>>>>>> performance is pretty bad from the twisty cable runs; much worse >>>>>>>>>> than any >>>>>>>>>> other configurations. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, nothing is really broken, but I know it can be better. >>>>>>>>>> Wondering if I should try again with a new take on the "not under >>>>>>>>>> tape" >>>>>>>>>> routing. Or try downtube again? Or just go nuts and look for a used >>>>>>>>>> STI >>>>>>>>>> system? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let's chat! >>>>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0a4fc453-0cd9-4ca4-b4e0-adda8cca8580n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0a4fc453-0cd9-4ca4-b4e0-adda8cca8580n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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