What does a peeling mounting plate look like? Anyone have pictures? Not
that I have kickstands on any of my bikes --- the one on the triplet got
taken off ages ago... Just curious.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 5:49 PM Richard Rose <rmros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When I was talking to Will about getting a double legged kickstand he
> warned me about the “peeling” mounting plate on the Clems. But, he thought
> I would be ok they had beefed them up. So far so good.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 5, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Jay Lonner <jay.lon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> My Hunq is a daily driver and has the dings and scratches to show for it.
> Probably the worst one is that the kickstand plate is pried partially loose
> — no big deal, I just took the kickstand off and used the mounting hardware
> to snug things back up. Worst case scenario for me is that someday I treat
> myself to a new paint job and maybe some frame modifications to go along
> with it.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Nov 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, George Schick <bhim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't read Grant's Blahg on this matter (the ancient OS on my
> computer is so out of date that I can't load certain websites), but what he
> has to say does not surprise me.  He's always been all about what he calls
> "beausage," a term he coined to mean "beauty through usage," or IOW don't
> sweat all of the nicks and scratches, "just ride" your bike and be happy.
> The good news though is that there is a happy middle ground between the
> complete over-the-top utility use of a bike (like Pam's), ignoring any wear
> and tear versus a finicky protectiveness, hovering over the bike at all
> times and worrying about theft, damage, etc.  And in my way of thinking
> that means "just ride" it for all it's worth, but don't just throw it in
> the corner until the next ride, but take good care of it.  Another way of
> saying that might be, "... take good care of it and it will take good care
> of you."
> This is no different than what one might do having just bought a nice new
> automobile and drives it everywhere, but also maintains it, washes and
> waxes it regularly, and is careful where they park it.
>
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:14:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I love this topic! I had my custom designed to answer the question, "What
>> if I had all the qualities I love about Rivendells in a frame made exactly
>> for my size, weight and riding preferences?", and at first I was super
>> precious about it. Later I realized the whole point was to have a perfect
>> bike I could ride every day for everything and that's what I'm doing.
>>
>> Of course I'm still absurdly touchy about scratching all that beautiful
>> Joe Bell paint but I don't let it stop me, I lock it up at Walmart, I fill
>> the bags with laundry and go to the laundromat. Because I want my bike to
>> do all the things bikes do!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable
>>> to me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In
>>> sum, Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes
>>> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those
>>> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will
>>> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs
>>> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was
>>> the bike for?
>>>
>>> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1
>>> favorite bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I
>>> bought it to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do
>>> guard it from that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping
>>> and traveling with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and
>>> then I still am tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike
>>> Expo I dithered about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy
>>> damaged while locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta
>>> said, “I don’t think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will
>>> expect you to bring.” And she was right, and I did.
>>>
>>> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her
>>> bike is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of
>>> rust cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and
>>> the elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about
>>> it. She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it
>>> was still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly).
>>> But she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes
>>> shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to
>>> us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has
>>> hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that
>>> one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it
>>> topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said
>>> she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among
>>> us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell
>>> off a cliff.
>>>
>>> So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care
>>> and protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of
>>> life - the mundane and the adventurous?
>>>
>>> On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell
>>> out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we
>>> have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it
>>> personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)
>>>
>>> I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding
>>> *most* of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and
>>> dirt, so it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in
>>> the paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me.
>>>
>>> Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What
>>> strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you
>>> unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear
>>> perspectives.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
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