Those gold minimotos make me (slightly) regret selling my blue ones. 
I'll get the Francis out and see if I can finesse some fenders under its 
(boring silver) minimotos. They really are amazing brakes. 

Philip 
Sonoma County, Calif - have a peaceful Armistice Day

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 7:34:09 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Brandon's Platypus runs MiniMotos with 44mm Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 
> tires on Velocity Atlas rims, as shown in an old news post from Will last 
> year when the Platypus first came out. 
>
> More here: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/brandons-55cm-platypus
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-11-10 at 10.28.49 AM.png]
>
> Looks like there *might *be room for a 48mm in there but it would be 
> close. I run Snoqualmie Pass tires and MiniMotos on Atlas rims on my 
> Hillborne. If I had a 48mm RH tire I'd pop it in there and check for you 
> but, alas, I do not. 
>
> If you have the brakes on hand just try em out. If you haven't ordered yet 
> you could go with MotoLites to be on the safe side, they will definitely 
> clear. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:45:36 AM UTC-5 jcbrya...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I know Mike Varley at Black Mountain Cycles is a big fan of the Minimoto 
>> and specs them for a lot of Monstercross builds, which has a max tire size 
>> of 700x50. Paul discusses fender clearance in this video 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6droVDLMXM>, but as Laing has said, 
>> there are other variables at play, namely the relationship between rim 
>> width and stud spacing and specific tire fit.
>>
>> I can take some measurements when I get home, but I have a pair of 
>> Motolites set up with Cliffhangers. The pads are set to the shortest 
>> extension and the arms had to be splayed outward a bit for brake pad 
>> clearance, thus reducing the vertical clearance. Not a problem with 
>> Motolites but this is significant in your case because you're flirting with 
>> the maximum allowable clearance for the Minimoto. I think a wide rim will 
>> be just enough to push you over the edge. Motolites would likely be a much 
>> better option. If you are dead-set on short pull levers, I'd recommend 
>> cantilevers.
>>
>> Side note: I remember seeing a set of custom Motolite brake pad collars 
>> on eBay that were designed to get the pads a bit further from the rim, 
>> which would allow the arms to sit vertically with wider rims. I thought 
>> some guy was making them, but it was apparently a one-off and they're long 
>> gone. With the popularity of wide rims (like 
>> Cliffhangers/Atlas/Quills/etc.), I think it makes sense and I'd absolutely 
>> pay extra for an alternate set of pad collars that work a bit better with 
>> my Cliffhangers.
>>
>> I'm currently going through a big cantilever phase, so I've been 
>> considering putting up my Motolites if there's anyone who wants to trade a 
>> set of Paul cantilever brakes.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Note that rim width changes the width of the tire not the height of the 
>>> tire. 
>>> The height of the tire is usually the problem, not the width.
>>> Proper adjustment of the brakes will impact the available clearance. 
>>> There more vertical that you adjust the arms on a V-brake like the Motolite 
>>> - the more clearance that you will have on the cross cable. You do this by 
>>> moving the spacers on the brake shoe attachments between the shoe and the 
>>> brake arm around. If the arms are splayed out like on a previous post, put 
>>> the thinner washers or no washer between the brake arm and brake shoe, the 
>>> leftover washers go between the brake arm and the attaching nut.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 9:53:18 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is a photo of the clearance when I had the Cavas on. A few things 
>>>> to consider.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. The height on these is 85mm and as pointed out above the 
>>>>    minimotos are 81
>>>>    2. I have pacenti rims vs your cliffhangers so I am likely not 
>>>>    getting near full width (48mm)
>>>>    3. The Cava's say "around 48" but they probably measure less even 
>>>>    on a rim like the cliffhangers.
>>>>
>>>> So based on that I would account for there being around 8mm less 
>>>> clearance in your setup. I would not have gone any larger in my setup and 
>>>> in fact I dropped to 42's to get more clearance. I agree with Joe. Its a 
>>>> safer bet to go with the motolites.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 9:14:57 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You're probably not going to find someone with MiniMotos on a Platy so 
>>>>> I did a bit of sleuthing. I have Motolites on my Riv custom with 47mm 
>>>>> tires, the straddle wire height is 103mm, here's the clearance I show. 
>>>>> MiniMotos have an 81mm straddle height, I think that 22mm difference is 
>>>>> going to bite you and that's not including that one of the arms bends 
>>>>> over 
>>>>> even lower. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd recommend the Motolites for her bike, they're super extremely 
>>>>> amazing. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 3:38:40 PM UTC-8 stoker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all - 
>>>>>> I received my wife’s 50cm Platypus last week. I am setting it up with 
>>>>>> Cliffhangers and 650b x 48 tires (Switchback Hills). I am wondering if 
>>>>>> Mini-Motos would have sufficient clearance at the straddle wire. Has any 
>>>>>> body tried this combination (or something similar?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks all - Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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