I wanted to post a bit about an experience I've had lately to see if anyone 
else here can relate, or provide some insights into: to preface, I'm a 
relatively new Riv owner, a longtime cyclist in his late 40's with no 
previous history of back pain (knock on wood), and someone who has always 
ridden saddles at a level angle, at or slightly above bar height.

As most of us on here do, I enjoy looking at photos of different setups for 
all the many different Riv bikes produced over the years. One thing I've 
noticed about a lot of folks' setup - especially the ones that are more 
upright, and especially the newer models that are stretched out and upright 
(Clem, Platy, Gus/Susie, Joe, etc.) - is that many riders tend to tilt 
their saddles nose-up slightly, and some at rather pronounced angles. I 
recall reading some posts recently published by Rivendell that essentially 
recommend positioning the saddle this way on these types of bikes.

So, after getting my Gus built up back in the beginning of October, I took 
the recommendation to heart, bolstered in part by all the evidence of many, 
many photos showing owners enjoying their saddles set up this way. I tilted 
the nose up at an angle that seemed appropriate, set my saddle height, and 
off I went. It felt ok, but I always felt like I was sliding down the 
backside of the saddle, and my body did feel like it was trying to get used 
to the upright position of the bike. Since then, I've been riding my Gus a 
lot. Many different types of terrain and varying distances. It's a joy to 
ride of course, and has been extremely comfortable otherwise from the 
get-go. i love it.

However, something else started coinciding with my time on Gus; a nagging 
lower back ache that seemed to be at its worse following a ride, and 
continuing for a day or two afterwards. I recently took 5 days off the bike 
and experienced no back pain during that time. It was then that I started 
to wonder if it was all related to the saddle angle. This past week, I 
started experimenting with setting my saddle up the same way it is on all 
my other bikes. The only difference with this bike is that the bars are 
much higher in relation to the saddle on my other bikes. After a couple of 
days riding with the newly level saddle (including a 30 mi ride yesterday), 
I'm experiencing no back pain like I was before. Maybe it's too early to 
count out coincidence, but something tells me it's not.

So this leads me to question the whole upwards tilt thing as it relates to 
these types of Riv models and how folks ride them. I know everyone is 
different, and there's always going to be those who prefer upward tilts, 
downward tilts, extreme fore / aft, etc. but what exactly is it, 
physiologically speaking, that skews towards the preference for the upward 
saddle tilt for an upright riding position? I'm certainly no expert on bike 
fit, but is there a logical justification for it, other than just personal 
preference? Has anyone else here had a similar experience? I'm going to 
keep it this way for a while to see if my hunch continues to bear fruit - 
fingers crossed.

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