Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
lean into the bars a bit more off road.)

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
> wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they 
> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
> if you don't want bar end shifters.  
>
> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going to 
> depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
> exact same geometry.
>
> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
> broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so 
> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>
> Let us know what you think.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
>> track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real thought 
>> and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
>> thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
>> out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set them 
>> up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
>>
>

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