Pretty bike, interesting that the Super Yummys are snug, I have them on my 2004 Atlantis and they fit great. For whatever reason I assumed the AR would be more roomy. 

On Mar 26, 2023, at 18:46, vernon brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

I have been working on building up a recently purchased what I believe to be AR frame. I don't know much aside from it belonged to a guy in the St Louis area that had passed away. There is a date written in permanent marker (4/30/2004) on the fork in permIt marker and a partly visible serial number that is under the plastic cable guide on the lower part of the bottom bracket lug. The paint is very nice for a nearly 20 year old frame but thats what you get with a JB paint job. It has been fun sorting through parts I mostly had already and piecing this one together. Rich from Riv did build up a nice new set of wheels. Typically I put drop bars on my bikes but I decided to try something a little different this time. I'll include a picture of the current setup I am running. The 26X2.22 tires are maybe a little too snug but are fun for the trails in my area.

Hope you all had a great weekend,

Vern in San Francisco

 
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On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:39:08 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
For interest's sake, here's the original order form from when my AR was built, indicating available and buyer-selected options.  At the time (mid 1998 originally, but  mid 1999, by the time it was finalized), it looks like the mid-fork blade braze-ons were called "low-rider" rack mounts.  I've always thought that the nitto campee mini-rack was a Rivendell design, and may have happened later than this, and been designed to be backward compatible for older frames that selected this option.  That would explain why only some older frames don't have them, but most new ones do.

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:49:54 AM UTC-6 James Valiensi wrote:
Hi,
Well that is interesting. I had the impression they hadn’t done the rack mounts earlier, from the conversations I had with them when placing my order. Perhaps it was a rare request back then. 
Anyways - I am happy the mounts are more or less standard now a days, they are so useful!

That green bike is very nice.

On Mar 22, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Andrew Letton <[email protected]> wrote:

My Joe Stark '99 All-Rounder has rack mounts on the fork blades.  
Was it maybe just that Curt had not yet done rack mounts on the fork blades for Rivs at that point?
cheers,
Andrew in Sydney

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:02:02 AM GMT+11, James Valiensi <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi,
When I ordered my custom Rivendell in 2002 I requested rack mounts on the fork blades. They hadn’t done this before. I had to send a drawing showing what I wanted. They agreed and Curt Goodrich made my frame. Joe Stark was supposed to be my builder, but he went of the reversvation before he started on it. I met Curt a few times and I’m super happy with his work. 

So, front rack mounts were not part of the normal Rivendell catalog 20 years ago.

James

On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:31 AM, m f <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi - I'm new here! Not sure how many of you saw this on eBay over the past few months, but I was able to work with the seller and found a way to buy this 2000 All-Rounder (Curt Goodrich). I have a couple updates in mind (sweptback handlebar, Brooks saddle), but those will happen with time. First step will be new tires and tuning the mechanicals (Dura Ace except for crankset) so I can get a ride or two under my belt. If the seller is in this group - thanks again for all the help!

Questions for the group: 
It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special request to not have them?
What are the markers that indicate the frame was painted at Joe Bell's shop?



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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:09:10 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
The All Rounder like the XO-1 before it gets a lot of interest and praise, but I think that, like the XO-1 that preceeded it, it is an early design that has been superseded and bettered by later Grantian bikes, starting with the Atlantis and continuing with the Sam Hillborne and doubtless the more recent models.

I say this having owned an XO-1 and having bought a custom Road based on the All Rounder, with lighter (753) tubing and slightly more upright hta (IIRC). My 1999 and 2003 Road customs, also built for 26" wheels, are better "All Round" both on pavement and in dirt than either XO-1 and the first Road custom, with much longer chainstays, slightly sacker head, and upsloping tts with extended head tubes. 

I say again that the later Road customs ride better on dirt, particularly sandy surfaces, than the XO-1 and the first gen, AR-based road custom.

I think -- but I am open to reasoned rebuttal -- that an Atlantis or Sam Hill would be better for all round riding than either XOs or ARs.

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