> I don't know what their margins are, nor will I try to justify them.
> But their prices may be a function of balancing costs of production
> between operations in Europe and Asia.

But wouldn't the same hold for quality U.S. vendors such as Outlier,
Ibex, or, for that matter, Riv and its Musa/Wooly Warm?  The designers
for these companies presumably are in the U.S.  Their garments are
made either in the U.S. of local and imported components or in places
like New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Fiji (even China now for some
Ibex)

For whatever reason, Rapha appears to believe its designers and
marketers deserve more money for creating and selling similar
merchandise than their competitors.

I have no quarrel with their right to this approach, but believe it is
a significantly different approach from what you will find at
Rivendell.

On May 26, 4:40 pm, Aaron Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes and no. Some of their products are made in Italy, England, and (I
> think) Portugal. Some other items are made in Vietnam and Nepal, in
> addition to China.
>
> I don't know what their margins are, nor will I try to justify them.
> But their prices may be a function of balancing costs of production
> between operations in Europe and Asia.
>
> In any event, as I stated above, I love their products and will
> continue to buy them. They work well for me and are supremely
> comfortable. If they aren't your cup of tea, so be it.
>
> Aaron
>
> On May 26, 2:19 pm, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Rivendell's approach is inclusive, Rapha's is exclusive.
>
> > The difference I see between Riv nd Rapha is the mark up.
>
> > Riv bikes made in Taiwan use components and design close to their U.S.
> > and Japanese made products.  Labor costs less, so Riv charges less.
>
> > There are several companies that make products similar to Rapha using
> > U.S.,U.K. and even Swiss labor.  Rapha makes almost all of its product
> > in China but nevertheless charges a premium.
>
> > On May 26, 3:03 pm, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 09:07 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I've always seen Rapha and Rivendell as quite similar.
> > > > Stylish, well made, a bit pricey but worth it, and both receive far 
> > > > more than their fair share of internet forum bashing. Oh, and the tweed.
>
> > > Rivendell's approach is inclusive, Rapha's is exclusive.
>
> > > None of us here is good enough to wear Rapha, right?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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