I searched the list history and Caroline Golum has traditionally been 
riding a 2009 era Betty Foy.  It was their only bike and a daily rider, so 
we may be talking about a Betty Foy (and a 105 Rear Derailleur) with 
upwards of 50,000 miles on it.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 7:59:44 AM UTC-7 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
wrote:

> Caroline
>
> You could quickly check if your chain length (# of links) is correct by 
> using this formula:
>
> # links = 2 * {(2*ChainStay Length (inches)) + 1/4*(# ChainRing Teeth + # 
> Largest Cog) + 1}
>
> You can measure the chainstay length or if your frame is a RBW, look it up 
> in the geo charts.   Older RBW's tend to have 44 to 45 cm stays (17.3 to 
> 17.7 inches).  Since you have a 1 x drive train, you dont have to worry 
> about which ring to use.
>
> If your actual # links is much greater than this value, your chain may 
> have too much slack.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 1:32:44 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:
>
>> Currently running 1x10 and friction bar-end shifting. The chain keeps 
>> coming off my crank, not hitting the right gear in the rear, etc. I've had 
>> the derailleur serviced, it's fine, etc. 
>>
>> Time to get a new shifter? Switch to indexed shifting? Switch to an 
>> 8/9spd in the rear? The bar-end shifter is RBW's Shifter - Silver2 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/kjalgjoihjga44451>. 
>
>

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