I was under the understanding that the current Pacenti Brevet rims are 
tubeless ready.

https://pacenticycledesign.com/collections/aluminium-rims-gravel-cross/products/brevet-rim-650b-1

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 12:38:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> What Gil says resonates with me. I love how you love a Clem! All those 
> attributes truly do make the Clem a gem.  I have favored those Platys as of 
> late, but I am going back to Clem-loving again soon. We are traveling right 
> now, but when I get back I’m heading to the bike shop to see about putting 
> 48s on my Clem if the Pacenti Brevet rims will take them. Sounds like if 
> they aren’t tubeless, it’s ok. We’ll see.
>
> On Jun 9, 2023, at 3:15 PM, Gill <crgi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The fact that the OP’s query has already been thoroughly dealt with won’t 
> dissuade me from chiming in on a subject near and dear (besides, if posters 
> were not able to beat dead horses this forum would have dissolved years 
> ago). I own a Clem and ride off road, gravel/trail riding is the fourth 
> most favorite thing I do in life. I highly encourage others to do it on a 
> Clem. Opinion, highly subjective, yes, but I do have a kind of data point. 
> Usually I’m solo but last summer I joined a group ride (my daughter said I 
> needed to make new friends). This served as a good barometer of how Clem 
> compared with other “gravel” bikes. My inaugural ride was 19 miles moving 
> at a good clip, mostly off-road at the end of which another rider smiled 
> and said “You just ride that thing don’t you“. I translated that to, “turns 
> out that’s a nice bicycle and my unspoken questioning of its 
> appropriateness for this ride was unfounded, my apologies“. Worth noting, 
> unlike Kai’s tough looking Clem mine is a Riv blue step thru and gets no 
> respect. The qualities that make the Clem a good gravel bike are those that 
> make it a good bike period: bulletproof frame, long wheel base, stable 
> handling, gearing that gets you over/through anything you have any business 
> being on, fits most any tire and uber comfortable. I might add that part of 
> that comfort comes from the bosco bars – Clems suspension system –a swept 
> back pliant trail chatter sponge that doesn’t compromise control. So resist 
> the temptation to immediately switch em out for off-road. Happy trails.
>
>
> Gil
> Gloucester
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 1:30:01 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Kai,
>>
>> My compliments on your Clem! Your portfolio of images really displays the 
>> Clems versatility, and I might add, your creativity. An ideal bike for 
>> NY/Brooklyn terrain.
>> The adjustable bottom bracket is pretty cool too:-)
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Many photos of many states of Clem H, all gravel ready- 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
>>> -Kai
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:06:54 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: PXL_20230606_164339003.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> This thread needs less opinions and more inpirational photos of Gravel 
>>>> Clems. Just my opinion. :P 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:02:41 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not going to provide specific tire recommendations, but I ride 
>>>>> "gravel" and single-track quiet a bit on my Roadini. I still remember 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> time in the 1990s when I was riding with Bridgestone-sponsored cyclist 
>>>>> Eric 
>>>>> House, and we all showed up in the East Bay proud of ourselves for riding 
>>>>> road bikes on a Grant ride. Grant showed up on a fixie with 35mm tires 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> proceeded to outride us all on and off road. 
>>>>>
>>>>> A few principles:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - The lighter the rider, the smaller the tire you can get away 
>>>>>    with. At 140 pounds, I can ride fire roads with 25mm tires (or even 
>>>>> 23, 
>>>>>    back when Michelin 23s were $10/pop!)
>>>>>    - Tread or no tread doesn't matter as much as rider skill and 
>>>>>    speed.
>>>>>    - Rider skill cannot be disentangled from bike fit. If the bike 
>>>>>    doesn't fit, you will find stuff scary that you can actually ride if 
>>>>> the 
>>>>>    bike fit. I once accidentally raised my seat too high and discovered 
>>>>> that 
>>>>>    stuff I could easily ride suddenly became hard!
>>>>>    - The longer the ride and the steeper the climb, the more 
>>>>>    important weight becomes. I can ride big heavy tires if I'm only going 
>>>>> to 
>>>>>    go downhill because a car did most of the work. But if I have to do a 
>>>>> lot 
>>>>>    of climbing (some of which turns into hiking inevitably if you ride in 
>>>>>    mountainous areas), the lighter the bike the better off you are.
>>>>>    - You can drop tire pressure far more than most tire pressure 
>>>>>    calculators will tell you to. I can run 700x40 tires measuring 38mm at 
>>>>>    25psi (the Rene Herse calculator will recommend 33psi) when I'm riding 
>>>>> off 
>>>>>    pavement. On the pavement that same pressure will feel inefficient. I 
>>>>> go so 
>>>>>    far as to carry a pressure gauge to drop tire pressure at the trail 
>>>>> head 
>>>>>    and pump up the tires when I transition off a dirt descent onto 
>>>>> pavement 
>>>>>    for the ride home.
>>>>>    - Bigger tires affect handling - one reason I don't ride with as 
>>>>>    big a tire as I can get away with is that you lose some agility. 
>>>>> Frequently 
>>>>>    I find that being able to steer precisely and quickly offsets the 
>>>>> inability 
>>>>>    to plow through some obstacle head on.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I do notice is that most people don't like to underbike. They 
>>>>> will make comments that I won't be able to do a ride on my 25mm tires and 
>>>>> then be all surprised when I show up and do the ride. But when I'm 
>>>>> touring 
>>>>> I'm not going to bring 3 different bikes, so I just push the limits and 
>>>>> go 
>>>>> slower and occasionally depend on pulling a spare tire out of my saddle 
>>>>> bag 
>>>>> if a tire were to shred during a tour (which can happen even if you're 
>>>>> not 
>>>>> riding off pavement).
>>>>>
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