This, for me, is a great wrap-up.. had a couple Rivs, have my Dad's AHH now 
that I will never part with.. as much as I love the marketing and look of a 
Roadini, just not sure it's the right bike for what it appears to be.. they 
do look great though! 

Chris 

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 6:44:32 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> I'm going to share my opinion on this but it is just that....my opinion. 
> With that caveat in mind here is how I arrived at the conclusion not to buy 
> a Roadini. My first Rivendell, a Sam Hillborne, is now my only Riv in the 
> current stable. This is my absolute favorite bike in the world. I have done 
> so much on this bike that it is now part of my life story. It was my first 
> entry into the "Just Ride" mentality. It broke me out of the mold and 
> allowed me to experience the joy of being an Unracer. I've configured it 
> multiple ways. I've camped with it, I've climbed some of the toughest 
> mountain in Vermont with it, I've explored some of the best gravel roads 
> the Northeast has to offer. It has done everything well and has never let 
> me down. However, in my experience the one thing the Sam does not do well 
> is to hang with the fast guys on my weekend group ride. The bike is simply 
> not optimized for that. All of that said, I have never loved a bike. more 
> then I love my Sam Hillborne. I will never part with it. 
>
> When I first saw the photos of the Sergio's green Roadini Riv's marketing 
> strategy worked exactly as it was designed to do. Convince me that I needed 
> to have one. I have other bikes that do not fit the Rivendell ethos. I have 
> a carbon fiber road bike with carbon wheels, hydraulic disc brakes and 
> electronic shifting. The antithesis of what Riv promotes. Yet this bike 
> still has its purpose that suits my riding needs/desires.  If I want to go 
> ride with my fellow middle age men in Lycra on a weekend go fast ride I'm 
> going to take the carbon bike. I want this bike in my stable but there is 
> no soulful connection to this carbon machine.  Nothing like my love for the 
> Sam.  
>
> The Roadini was going to scratch an itch that I had to build up a classic 
> steel frame with rim brakes and mechanical brifters. I wanted Campagnolo 
> parts because I've never owned a bike with Campy. The vision I had for the 
> Roadini was to take it on my weekend group ride with my fellow MAMIL 
> friends. Sure I could have done this on a Roadini but I question if I would 
> have been happy with it.  I had doubts that the geometry would be too 
> upright and the chainstays too long. I simply had a hunch that a Roadini 
> would not meet my expectation of having the snappy road feel that I look 
> for in a bike like this. I was afraid it would feel dull and sluggish. 
>
> Everyone's needs will be different. I've had a Appaloosa and a Clem H. 
> Regret selling the Appaloosa all the time but don't regret letting going of 
> the Clem H. 
>
> A Roadini would be a great bike for someone under the right circumstances. 
> Compared to anything that Surly makes I'd say it would be a marked 
> improvement. 
>
> As for me I ultimately bought a used steel Serotta frame in mint condition 
> that I will build up with Campy parts. I will scratch the itch that I had 
> for a classic rim brake road bike with mechanical shifting but this time it 
> won't be another Riv. 
>
>
> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:03:15 AM UTC-4 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
>> Have you considered anything from Crust? I too am interested in a Roadini 
>> (Although I dont plan to get one since I just built a Sam and have a 
>> Waterford) but I wonder if the Riv philosophy and tubing really is the best 
>> choice for a light feeling road bike. Mostly I'm refrrring to the tubing.
>>
>> My Sam is probably my favorite bike I've owned.
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:40 AM UTC-4 R. Scott Lake wrote:
>>
>>> Intrigued by the Roadini release tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Current stable is 61cm Cheviot for commutes, groceries- my 
>>>    favorite ride.
>>>    - I have.a relatively new 58 Surly Straggler that I am using as my 
>>>    road bike.
>>>    - Has always felt a bit aggressive. Get a little sore and numb after 
>>>    a while.
>>>    - 90% of my riding is on flat, SC Lowcountry roads- 10-20 miles at a 
>>>    clip.
>>>    - 55 years old. PBH=89, 6' 175#
>>>
>>>
>>> Question is whether I will notice a large comfort difference in Roadini 
>>> compared to current Straggler.
>>>
>>> Wish I could do a test ride.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>>
>>>

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