Possibly dumb question: have you taken a good look at your chain? It ay be kinked, which would cause skipping gears. -Wes
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 4:04:01 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Andre attempted to make some further adjustments, the chain still skips. I > tried installing a Deore XT M771 and that was a little bit better but the > chain still skips. > > I called Riv and talked to Grant who was eager to see some pictures. Will > has a new dropout heading to me by mail, now I just need to find someone > who can braze the new dropout on. The framebuilder I know has transitioned > from building bikes to chartering boats! > > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:43:30 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote: > >> Yesterday I brought the frame to my LBS, Bike Works and handed it over >> to trusted mechanic Andre. He bent the hanger, aligned the dropouts and >> aligned the hanger. The hanger alignment tool showed the hanger was in >> plane with the rim. Amazingly the hole took a derailer bolt just fine. It >> looks terrible but functionality seemed promising. This was all I cared >> about. >> >> You can see the hole is terribly elongated. >> >> [image: IMG_6872.JPG] >> >> [image: IMG_6871.JPG] >> >> Here's my wavy hanger. >> >> [image: IMG_6880.JPG] >> >> Fortunately I have a small collection of Cyclones to draw from. The last >> one I mangled was beautiful old stock. This one here is almost as nice. >> >> The bike shifted fine in the stand. But on the road and under load the >> chain skips in the smallest four cogs. >> >> Tomorrow I'll take it back to Andre and see if he can't finesse it into >> shape. >> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 8:38:04 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote: >> >>> Patrick: Sorry about that Fargo but glad to hear it could be repaired. >>> Replaceable hangers seem helpful! >>> >>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:41:41 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>>> And: I had Chauncey Matthews use a replaceable hanger when he built the >>>> replacement for the Fargo. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 8:38 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> FWIW, I had a similar experience with a Fargo when a stick jammed the >>>>> rd: the hangar was bent 90* inward (and jammed into the cassette; no >>>>> single-speeding home). The good news, and the point: a LBS was able to >>>>> unbend the rd to usable status again. The replacement rd worked fine. Of >>>>> course, YMMV. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 7:50 AM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks, John. I'll check out the spokes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been texting with my local mechanic friend, Andre. We're going >>>>>> to try and bend the hanger and see how close we can get it. Considering >>>>>> a >>>>>> drop out saver from Wheels Mfg. >>>>>> >>>>>> If that fails I'll see about having a new dropout installed. I gotta >>>>>> call Will when Riv opens! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow Eric, that was a bad one, glad your ok and the Sam is on the >>>>>>> mend. Don't forget to check the spokes for nicks, could break easy if >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> are. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JohnS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 7:54:06 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wow. That's wild. Glad you're ok. Bummer about the Sam, that's a >>>>>>>> beautiful bike. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 9:08:55 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian and Danny! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I got the mech freed. The parallelogram housing is twisted, too. >>>>>>>>> The limit screws aren't in plane, they're twisted! It's a huge mess. >>>>>>>>> Still >>>>>>>>> have many good screws, bolts and springs worth saving. Jockey wheels, >>>>>>>>> too. >>>>>>>>> I'll leave it as-is and pull parts from it as needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry about the hanger damage, but good to hear that you're ok. >>>>>>>>>> Even in its pretzelized state, it's a good looking derailer >>>>>>>>>> sculpture! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Danny >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:42 PM Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m just over here hungry for pretzels. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seriously though, glad you’re ok, and I’m sorry about your Sam’s >>>>>>>>>>> hanger. I’m sure it’ll be up and running strong again soon. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The >>>>>>>>>>>> bike stuff is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading >>>>>>>>>>>> your story, and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> actually work?!?" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yikes, that looks like a mess! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jared >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ted.l...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m sorry to hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretzel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you’ve made, though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deraillers that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went through a far more severe crash. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanger can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed with minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builder might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be needed here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replaceable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangers at some point along the line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D <macro...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take turn out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be worth it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dustin in VA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a picture. I rolled to the side of the road and did not see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the culvert, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden with fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed. I'm fine! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotated 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bent. I spun the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crank while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought I'd give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it a go as a single speed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was at that time the derailer turned upside down and inside >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, bending >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Screenshot 2023-07-23 at 3.05.28 PM.png> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hanger can be bent but I have a feeling it will require some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work from a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five of them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements I picked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> salvage bin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything?" 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