I'll take the middle ground.  Let him get the lay of the land before making 
a decision.

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 12:53:46 AM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Do it!!! What a way for him to think of your father and remember him. 
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 10:56:15 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> DON'T DO IT !
>>
>> I am collectively in the same thought as the others before my post. Save 
>> the Clem Smith Jr. "L"  for after his college years for him to thoroughly 
>> appreciate it, as a graduation present.  
>>
>> Yes, the likelihood of it getting stolen is very high in a college 
>> setting. Buy him a second hand bicycle to ride to college. If it does get 
>> stolen, you will be heart-broken and have a very difficult time forgiving 
>> yourself for allowing him to ride the Clem to college.  
>>
>> Rivendell bicycles are very special and their owners treat them well with 
>> the utmost care. 
>>
>> *The Clem will not fit on the bicycle rack of a transit bus. It is nearly 
>> 80" long.* 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 9:23:44 PM UTC-7 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to go against others' strong opinions here. It probably 
>>> depends on where exactly he's going, but a Riv can be fine on a college 
>>> campus if he's careful. My Crust and Rivendell have both survived college 
>>> campus life at the University of Montana with me. I've had to use all sorts 
>>> of creativity for keeping them inside in Montana winters; they've ended up 
>>> under my bed, hanging in a closet, in the garage at work, in my living room 
>>> in the house I live in now, and the list goes on and on. When leaving them 
>>> locked up, my thinking is that they don't look like fancy modern bikes that 
>>> would be attractive to theives, and if they are locked well (I usually use 
>>> two u-locks if leaving for more than a couple hours) then the theives will 
>>> go for the abundance of basic modern mountain bikes locked with cables 
>>> instead. It's worked well for me for the past three years, and I know 
>>> several others who have ridden nice bikes on college campuses for many 
>>> years. Lock it up well, don't completely ignore it and it'll be fine. And 
>>> if it's not, then at least it was being loved and not just sitting around.
>>>
>>> Josiah Anderson
>>> Missoula, MT
>>>
>>> Le sam. 5 août 2023 à 19:56, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> It nearly kills me to say it, but my older son will be heading to 
>>>> college in a year. Freshman aren’t to bring cars to campus, so that leaves 
>>>> buses, bikes, and your own two feet for transportation. My boys have grown 
>>>> up riding Clem Hs; this son rides a 52 cm cast-off from my husband (who 
>>>> doesn’t ride, sigh). 
>>>>
>>>> My 6’3” Dad had a blue 59 cm Clem on order when he died suddenly in 
>>>> 2020, and his blue Clem has sat, boxed, waiting for my boy to grow into 
>>>> it. 
>>>> I lugged the gargantuan box up from the basement last week to see how if 
>>>> the bike would fit. “Now that I’ve obtained optimal height,” my son is 
>>>> fond 
>>>> of saying… 
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, he’s 6’1” now (likely still growing) and I need him to decide 
>>>> if he wants to stick with his old Clem H (that he was fond of) or settle 
>>>> into this Clem L. Because whichever bike he chooses is getting new wheels, 
>>>> dyno and fenders and going to college with him. At first he was opposed to 
>>>> the idea of a new Clem; he liked his old Clem, thought it looked cool. But 
>>>> after the - as he calls it - Big Bike was assembled, he really began to 
>>>> like it. “It looks elegant,” he said. It really does, all long and lithe, 
>>>> in blue and silver. He put his saddle and bags on the bike and we test 
>>>> rode 
>>>> it tonight. He said, “I am really liking the Big Bike. I like that my 
>>>> knees 
>>>> don’t have anything to hit (geez, were his knees hitting his bars?!) and 
>>>> it 
>>>> looks elegant. It feels more at home now that I have my old saddle on it.” 
>>>>
>>>> I have mixed feelings about sending him to college with this bike, 
>>>> because it’s so nice. I also doubt he’ll be able to get it on a bus bike 
>>>> rack - and I have no idea how often he will want to do that. His bike life 
>>>> is totally unknown at this point. All I know is that I’m getting him dyno 
>>>> because the kid has never remembered to charge a light in his LIFE and I 
>>>> will not sleep at night without it.The 52 takes 650b wheels and the 59 
>>>> takes 700c, so I don’t want to buy the wheels until I know which bike he 
>>>> really wants. But as of now, he wants his new bike.
>>>>
>>>> I know people will say we should just get a beater. I know why that 
>>>> would be advisable, but I also hate to think of a Clem languishing when it 
>>>> could be serving a noble purpose. I’d love for him and his Clem to journey 
>>>> through undergrad together.
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering…has anyone gone to college or sent their kid to college 
>>>> with a Clem? What do you have to say about it? Photos in the next post…
>>>> Leah
>>>>
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