Reminds me of the Jack Taylor Rough Stuff. I think the calipers vs 
cantilever is more of the shame than losing the swoopy tube. Overall a good 
lookin bike. 

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:13:20 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> .. does that mean the weight limit on those is going to be even lighter 
> than before? Do you need to be a 150 lb rider to ride one now? I 
> specifically chose the Gus because of all the discussions around the 
> purported weight limits they placed on the 
>
>
>
> Ok..  what I'm wondering *now*, is if there will still be a Gus too, 
> after all.  I may have not followed closely enough and don't want to go 
> back and search old info, but I thought the reason that we all assumed the 
> Gus and Susie were merging into a single model was because a blug blurb 
> said something about a "hybrid."   But could that have meant a hybrid in 
> terms of lugs PLUS fillet welds? That's what these samples appear to be. 
>
> Regarding weight limits, it seems that - with a couple of notable 
> exceptions discussed in the group - the original Susie was alot stronger 
> than anticipated.  So I wouldn't fret too much if you're considering 
> getting one.  I'm a big guy myself, and certainly have no qualms riding my 
> own Susie in rough conditions. It doesn't flex nearly as much as other 
> bikes I own.   
>
> I kind of thought the biggest difference between the gus's and susie's 
> relative frame stregths came from their tubing diameters - especially the 
> downtube, but including the headtube.   Maybe they could just thicken guage 
> of  the smaller-diameter tubing if they wanted to make the susie stronger?  
> Or make thin the gauge of the gus if they wanted to make it lighter?   But 
> the later would require new lugs and we know Grant doesn't like thin, 
> easily-dented tubing.
>
> The oddest thing about not having a Gus Boots Willsen model is going to be 
> explaining to people where Susie W Longbolts and Wolbis Slugstone derived 
> from.
>

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