Man just USE your bikes! I read this blog post a while ago and was like "WTF, people will drop a minimum of 2.5k on a bike and not ride it!?!? - must be NICE to have that kind of cash!"
Bikes are meant to be ridden. Rivendells will stand up to just that; they're very much made for it. And seriously, if you can afford to have a Rivendell to not use it... share? :D On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:45:37 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote: > This is just the thread that I needed right now; John thanks for pushing > it back to the top. I'm considering using a very well-equipped Atlantis as > my daily driver/commuter and I guess what I was feeling was a sense that I > should be using that bike for its intended purpose instead of riding > something that I don't enjoy as much simply to preserve the Riv. I was > thinking of buying another Riv (a clem) for this purpose but after > considering the cost of it + tax + a few changes, I'd be into it for a > similar sum. I might as well ride the Atlantis. I'll report back. > > John - I agree, your Atlantis ameliorated that rock and the overall > aesthetic of that canyon. > > On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:38:03 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Your Atlantis is living life right ! >> >> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 3:25:49 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote: >> >>> On a recent road trip in the Southwest, I rode my beautiful Atlantis >>> along the rim of the Grand Canyon from Desert View to Hermit's Rest. At one >>> point I stopped at a viewpoint, leaned the bike against a rock to take a >>> photo, and (of course) it fell over. Still beautiful and ever-so >>> functional, the Atlantis has a souvenir from the canyon and the canyon is >>> that much more stunning with some Interior Russian blue-green added to its >>> majestic hues.[image: IMG_2280.jpeg] >>> Cheers, John >>> >>> >>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 10:24:29 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Max and Philip! I'm really enjoying the color scheme and how >>>> it plays with the changing leaves on the ground. It had its own fall >>>> yesterday when a strong gust of wind knocked it over at a coffee shop. A >>>> little less precious everyday >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:03:25 PM UTC-4 philip....@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> An absolutely perfect bike! >>>>> >>>>> P. W. >>>>> ~ >>>>> (917) 514-2207 >>>>> ~ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 9:43 AM, danielle da cruz <daniell...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Joe, me too! They’re calling it Sergio green. It is so pretty >>>>> and definitely falls into that faerie-elvish category that Grant recently >>>>> remarked on (warned against?) when encouraging more black parts on bikes, >>>>> but I love it. >>>>> >>>>> Just rode it to the bookstore for more exposure therapy, locking up to >>>>> the painted black bike rack. Baby steps. >>>>> >>>>> <image2.jpeg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's so pretty! I love the Vintage Rivendell Green (I know they call >>>>> it something else but this was a color that appeared on early Rivs). >>>>> >>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:03:12 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This thread came to mind yesterday when I rode my new Roadini to the >>>>>> climbing gym. It arrived in Cambridge from Walnut Creek Tuesday night >>>>>> and I >>>>>> kept my Cheviot decal-scratching partner and our very enthusiastic, >>>>>> bike-loving neighbor away as I carefully reassembled it myself with a >>>>>> beer >>>>>> in the garage. Though they are far more mechanically inclined than I am, >>>>>> I >>>>>> would not let their less-careful-than-mine mitts near this shiny new >>>>>> bike. >>>>>> It’s my bike, so of course I feel this, but it truly is the most >>>>>> beautiful >>>>>> bike ever and I suddenly have that *my bike is precious and must not >>>>>> be marred – ever – *feeling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fast forward to the agony at the climbing gym. Which area of the rack >>>>>> looks cleanest? Which other bikes will be near mine and do these bikes >>>>>> appear to be owned by kind and considerate people who will be careful >>>>>> not >>>>>> to touch my bike with theirs? Should I just bring it inside with me? Is >>>>>> anywhere truly safe??? >>>>>> >>>>>> Today it is still precious as I await the first scratch, scrape or >>>>>> ding. I look forward to when it’s less precious and I can let my guard >>>>>> down >>>>>> a bit. The beauty will remain. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 10:36 AM, dylan green <dylantho...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I too have a '93 XO-3 as my daily driver. I recently sold my last >>>>>> 'nice' bike and am on the hunt for either a Legolas or Toyo atlantis as >>>>>> a >>>>>> project. The Bridgestone is such a great bike >>>>>> I sometimes find myself thinking I don't *really need *another bike. >>>>>> But then again, I'm on a group dedicated to bikes... >>>>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:40:46 PM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was so grateful to find a '93 XO-3 frame in very good condition a >>>>>>> few years back...I built it up as my everyday rider, with a 1x 8 drive, >>>>>>> unfancy 26" wheels (with Panaracer Paselas), and an Albastache bar. >>>>>>> Basket >>>>>>> in the front and a Carradice bag in the rear - it's perfect for the >>>>>>> job. I >>>>>>> commute most days, taking a one-hour ferry ride across the SF Bay, >>>>>>> exposing >>>>>>> the bike to relentless salt spray, but I do my best to keep it clean >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> I've grown to love it....meanwhile, I happened upon the most beautiful >>>>>>> Waterford-built All-Rounder last spring and scooped it right up. This >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> is essentially a mirror image of the B'stone, but so much prettier. >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> experimented with several different bar/stem set-ups, none of which are >>>>>>> quite as good as the Albastache, and I will probably wind up with that >>>>>>> eventually. That said, I'm hesitant to subject it to the whims of my >>>>>>> daily >>>>>>> seafaring adventure, especially when I have a bike that is already >>>>>>> built >>>>>>> for that purpose. So, for the time being, it only gets infrequent >>>>>>> weekend >>>>>>> attention. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:43:26 PM UTC-7 mathiass...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I draw the line at winter riding where salt is used. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Last year I used a converted 93 Rockhopper as my winter ride (IGH, >>>>>>>> coaster brake, studded tires) and on "nice" days, i.e. dry roads, I >>>>>>>> used my >>>>>>>> Bruce Gordon BLT (Taiwan model). Afterwards I cleaned and reassembled >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> rear derailleur -- from maybe a dozen trips on decent days, it was a >>>>>>>> rusty, nasty mess, and so were a number of other parts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From now on, only beater bikes in the salt months for me. >>>>>>>> The rest of the year, anything goes, that's why I own bikes. I >>>>>>>> think of scratches as battle scars, to be worn proudly. >>>>>>>> But salt is just wrong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cheers -mathias >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:22:32 AM UTC-4 daniell...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Joyce, thank you for your kind words and for sharing that story! >>>>>>>>> It immediately reminded me of a quote from a Zen master that I've >>>>>>>>> spent >>>>>>>>> time reflecting on, but never around my bike until now: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Die while you are alive, and be absolutely dead. Then do whatever >>>>>>>>> you want: it's all good. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your brother sounds like he's got this whole liberation thing down >>>>>>>>> :))) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yours in RivSister solidarity, >>>>>>>>> Danielle >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Danielle, >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your story. It's such a pleasure to read a >>>>>>>>>> well written tale and I shuddered at the description of your >>>>>>>>>> pristine >>>>>>>>>> Cheviot losing the battle with concrete. I'm looking forward to the >>>>>>>>>> images >>>>>>>>>> of diaper swaddling! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your story reminded me of some advice my older brother gave my >>>>>>>>>> younger brother. Both of them avid outdoorsy >>>>>>>>>> hunters/fishers/campers/boaters, they drive pick-ups for their >>>>>>>>>> adventures. >>>>>>>>>> Younger bro gets a brand new Ford and doesn't want to drive a >>>>>>>>>> particular >>>>>>>>>> road because his new baby is going to get scratched. Older bro >>>>>>>>>> says, "Find >>>>>>>>>> a track that is overgrown with brush and drive your truck through >>>>>>>>>> it. It >>>>>>>>>> will get scratched up and you'll never have to worry about it >>>>>>>>>> again." So >>>>>>>>>> much for precious truck finishes! (And advice from older >>>>>>>>>> brothers...ha!) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please keep posting and sharing your new bike decisions & >>>>>>>>>> adventures! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RivSisters, >>>>>>>>>> --Joyce (who has accepted the beausage on Clem, but is still >>>>>>>>>> cringing at new scratches on Platy) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:47:43 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about the >>>>>>>>>>> Albastache for months. I do like the reach on it and the more >>>>>>>>>>> assertive set >>>>>>>>>>> up (why does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me >>>>>>>>>>> biking??). >>>>>>>>>>> What ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I put inverse >>>>>>>>>>> levers >>>>>>>>>>> on the Porteur and liked having my hand at the levers for my mostly >>>>>>>>>>> city >>>>>>>>>>> riding through traffic. Now you've got me thinking about the >>>>>>>>>>> Albatross >>>>>>>>>>> upside down :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it >>>>>>>>>>> happened I didn't even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd >>>>>>>>>>> beat >>>>>>>>>>> himself up if he knew what happened in a moment of carelessness. We >>>>>>>>>>> had a >>>>>>>>>>> riding date out to dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer >>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>> shared this story that he of course didn't remember, having never >>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>> told. He asked me to show him my post...I declined :p >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried >>>>>>>>>>> both! I'm also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am >>>>>>>>>>> dreaming up >>>>>>>>>>> elaborate bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still >>>>>>>>>>> thinking I >>>>>>>>>>> might want to shave off a bit the swept back length if it wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>> compromise anything >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially thinking >>>>>>>>>>> of anytime it's put on the rack to accompany us on vacation >>>>>>>>>>> (looking at you >>>>>>>>>>> @Leah and your upcoming trip). Maybe it'll only be the Chev that >>>>>>>>>>> rides the >>>>>>>>>>> rack. Maybe I'll just accept that inevitable chips and scratches >>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>> sure to come, like the scars we wear having lived. Or maybe I'll >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>> gather all our old cloth diapers and swaddle it for the ride... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:08:46 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle >>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was reminded of you guys today when I was looking at my bike. >>>>>>>>>>>> My most precious raspberry one is definitely showing minor signs >>>>>>>>>>>> of use. >>>>>>>>>>>> It’s dirty. Gritty, even. And the Platypus decal is marred (just a >>>>>>>>>>>> tiny >>>>>>>>>>>> bit) and I’m seeing small paint chips begin to form. >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am (unexpectedly) comforted by this, because it means that >>>>>>>>>>>> the bike is having adventures and serving its purpose. I am going >>>>>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>>> putting 4 bikes on my rack for a bike overnight I’m doing with the >>>>>>>>>>>> women of >>>>>>>>>>>> my bike club. I am rather nervous about the jostling and >>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent paint >>>>>>>>>>>> damage that could occur, but I’ve decided it’s worth the risk to >>>>>>>>>>>> have the >>>>>>>>>>>> experience of a real bike adventure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was grinning to myself remembering my old Betty, the first >>>>>>>>>>>> “nice” bike I ever had, and how I put all kinds of marks on it and >>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>> totally unbothered. I didn’t know it was tragic to mark up your >>>>>>>>>>>> bike at the >>>>>>>>>>>> time. Working on getting back to that! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know these imperfections are pretty minor, but hey, it’s >>>>>>>>>>>> progress in the life of this bike! >>>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As a suggestion in protecting your new Sergio Green Roadini >>>>>>>>>>>> bicycle, you might want to use some this helicopter tape. I bought >>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>> with plenty left over from my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike in >>>>>>>>>>>> protecting her >>>>>>>>>>>> against the elements. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QC6H90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW... I love your storytelling, as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel >>>>>>>>>>>> Yelm, WA. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:02:44 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Danielle I have used both the loscos and the chocos. There is >>>>>>>>>>>>> not a huge difference to be honest but if you are OK with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> narrow width >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can say that I don't think there is a handlebar on the planet >>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>> better looking than the losco bar. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:55:48 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> …Or he’d surely be out on the street, looking for cover. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jock >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:43 PM John Dewey <john...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle, you have the patience of a saint. Your partner is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lucky man, truly living a charmed life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:51 PM danielle da cruz < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This story hit me in the worst way. Six years ago for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone birthday I decided to purchase a beautiful orange >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheviot from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Riv. I'd jumped on one that was too large for me that our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local bike shop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had on display and from that moment on could think of nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else. I felt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a bird taking flight on that bike, so we placed the order >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my size >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and waited for delivery. I got notice when it arrived and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raced home to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that my ever-helpful partner had opened the box and was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembling it (you know where this is going)... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On our concrete walkway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the frame laying on the bare ground, scratching along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as he moved it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking a bite out of "v" in the Cheviot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instant decal damage on day one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scratched down to the steel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel sick to my stomach even thinking about it again. And >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so from moment one it was no longer pristine. Very special of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not entirely precious and future scrapes have gone down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier. Now I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my finger on the button again, ready for a Sergio Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roadini this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday. I plan to take D(elivery) Day off from work and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure my man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a plan is out of the house :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Chev decal.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:15:59 PM UTC-4 Mojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the winter of 2011, I bought a Mark- Nobilette-built >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legolas. It was serious overlap with my 2001 custom Riv Road >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quickbeam. I justified it as my mixed-surface, foul-weather, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine-riding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike. I built it up during that winter with pleasing-to-me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Ritchey Logic crank and a Shimergo drive train (Campy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-spd Chorus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brifters mated to Shimano 9 speed XT derailers (12-36 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34/46 gearing)). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My very first ride, I took it out to the nearby irrigation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ditch to snap a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo with some mountains in the background. I leaned it up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete irrigation valve and before I could snap a pic my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparkling new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legolas slid down the edge of the concrete and into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ditch. The top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scratches were horrible. But those scratches freed me and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legolas. I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridden it plenty on paved roads in nice weather, but also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitation in gravel, snow, mud mixed with cow scat, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thunderstorms with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small hail. Big scratches for vanity instead of adventure was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upsetting, but it has worked out for me and this fine bike. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe in GJT CO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8fbbb4a7-fe1b-43a5-99ef-70f7edc8c40bn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8fbbb4a7-fe1b-43a5-99ef-70f7edc8c40bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic >>>>>>>>>>>> in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/fBVXpMqGxr8/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an >>>>>>>>>>>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67303a21-307a-41c4-94f4-f9704cd80615n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/67303a21-307a-41c4-94f4-f9704cd80615n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/fBVXpMqGxr8/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6988e8e0-f6c1-4d8a-9961-c27eb407fef5n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6988e8e0-f6c1-4d8a-9961-c27eb407fef5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/fBVXpMqGxr8/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cd72de09-71b3-4544-9c61-931151b8b4dan%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cd72de09-71b3-4544-9c61-931151b8b4dan%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/77524C98-69B5-4878-AB20-5B25673EAD70%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/77524C98-69B5-4878-AB20-5B25673EAD70%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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