Marathon Supremes have been quite supple and easy to mount for me
Max

On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Ed Carolipio <ed.caroli...@gmail.com> wrote:


I've had similar problems with the Cliffhangers and other tubeless compatible rims. Two things I did to make life easier: (1) ensure the tire bead is in the center channel, as Josiah pointed out; and (2) use a thin plastic tubeless rim tape (Stan's, Velocity, Muc-Off) even when running tubes and limit it at one layer. Never use the cloth rim tape (like Velox) and avoid the rubber rim strips (like Ritchey).

You didn't mention if you had a wire bead or folding bead tires. Wire beads are hit-and-miss with different rims. I've found I have a lot less trouble with folding bead tires.

You also didn't mention which Marathons you're running. IMO the base Marathons are the ones folks abhor. I opt for the highest option Marathons, which used to be the Marathon Supremes but currently I think are Almotions, and always in a folding bead. It's a much more supple and lighter tire with similar flat performance and durability. I haven't had direct experince with the Mondials but people speak highly of those when touring off road.

--Ed Carolipio
Redondo Beach, CA

On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 8:46:32 AM UTC-8 Curtis wrote:
Hello,

Looking for some Cliffhanger wisdom.  It seems that I am having a good amount of trouble mounting Schwalbe Marathons on my Cliffhangers.  So much so that I worry about a tire change in the field, such as the Oregon Outback, and been stranded.  I am now carrying a large screwdriver to get the leverage  needed to mount the last bit of tire on the rim.  Have not pinched more that two tubes in the last fifty years of flat fixing.  Yesterday, I pinched two and scratched the heck out of the rim.  Not to mention bending the cool aluminum CyclePro tire levers that I have had since high school.
Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Curtis

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