Ronny has a blog post about his Malocchio build and seems to really enjoy it. https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/11/01/2052/
Compared to the Roadini, it's a fair bit lighter and the geometry is certainly geared more towards spirited riding. I owned 2 Roadinis, one larger size (gen 1) and a smaller size (gen 2)...I preferred the larger size with a more upright riding position (w/ drop bars). It was an exceptionally smooth ride, not necessarily quick, but very very smooth. Later I tried the smaller size thinking I could build it up with bars lower than the saddle and with some fatty 44mm tires. However, I really didn't enjoy the feeling of the longer chainstays, especially when climbing out of the saddle, it just didn't feel like a road bike. I'd vote for the Malocchio. BUT, Ronny's also planning a collab with Beach Club to make a road bike with a sloped top tube, mid reach brakes and light steel fork...which is pretty much exactly what my new-to-me Waterford is. Makes for a perfect road bike IMO. https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/12/18/beach-club-buzz/ But for something available now and more affordable, I don't think you could go wrong with a Malocchio. On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:02:20 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote: > If one is considering the Malocchio, I would check out the Romanceur Canti. > Very light weight with the Reynolds 853 tubing, no strange brake matching > and greater tire compatibility. > I love mine. > > David Hays > > On Jan 5, 2024, at 10:14 PM, eddietheflay <eddiet...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Crust Malocchio. Real lugs, real lightweight tubing, decent clearance. > Some things in its favor. Definitely not the looker that most Rivs are and > without sloping top tube = good or not so? We could put some blocks on my > pedals and you could try it. > > On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:05:49 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > >> The A Homer Hilsen comes with an 80mm drop, which could be one reason you >> like it over the Roadini. But the Hilsen probably won't fit in my travel >> bike box. >> >> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024, 17:54 Stephen Durfee <chefd...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Chris - I got my Roadini just over a year ago, a complete bike purchased >>> from a CL listing in South Carolina that I had shipped to Napa. I wanted a >>> RIv so bad, and a "road bike" in particular, but was (perhaps like you), >>> hoping to save a few bucks on a pre-owned model. I had previously visited >>> HQ and talked with Will, who acknowledged that I was on the cusp between 54 >>> and 57, and that either could be a good fit...I later concluded that I >>> should have gone with the larger size - the one I got was a 54 in "Old >>> Blue", an earlier model which would not accept the larger tire size that >>> the newer models do. I liked the bike well enough that I considered >>> investing in a brand new frame (that Gold is hot!) but also realized that I >>> didn't love the components that came with that bike in the first place. >>> And so, since I would have been essentially starting from scratch, it >>> didn't take much convincing to grab that Homer frame that came up locally, >>> and then build it up with the parts that I wanted. Now I have a bike that I >>> love, love, love, in a size that fits! I kept it lean, with some Noodles >>> and 33mm Jack Browns, no racks and only a spare tire tool kit. The Roadini >>> felt good, but the Homer feels great! And while I'm the first to >>> acknowledge that I know nothing about BB drop, or could comment on >>> flexiness, or even know how much it weighs...I feel fast when I'm on it. >>> >>> If in your heart, you want an orange 50, I'd say just wait. But you're >>> close enough to Walnut Creek to go have a spin on a new bike and see what >>> you think. The newsletter that came out today says they discovered one Gold >>> 50 in stock... >>> >>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> It's way more flexy/comfy than my Custom Ti bike, which friends already >>>> claim is flexy and comfy when they ride it (and which flexes like crazy >>>> when I attach a trailer to it). It's overbuilt for me @ 145 pounds. If I >>>> was 160 pounds I wouldn't consider it over built, and if I was 200 pounds >>>> I >>>> still wouldn't expect to break it. My big complaint is that I don't >>>> consider 75mm BB drop to be sufficient for 30mm tires on the road. I want >>>> 80mm or 85mm drop for a bike built for modern style giant tires where you >>>> wouldn't expect to ride anything smaller than 700x30. >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 9:19:37 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess that's my concern is I'm not looking for a gravel bike.. I'm >>>>> looking for a zippy (fast-ish) road bike that will take larger tires.. >>>>> Also, one of my main concerns is the bike will be overbuilt, meaning the >>>>> tubes will be heavy enough that it won't flex enough to be comfy.. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:15:25 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have about 1300 miles on my Roadini: >>>>>> https://blog.piaw.net/2023/05/rivendell-roadini-1000-mile-review.html. >>>>>> With 700x28mm tires it feels as fast as any bike I've ridden that's not >>>>>> built to be ultralight. I built mine up to be around 20 pounds with >>>>>> pedals, >>>>>> bottle cage and pump but no toolkit or water bottle. I could have >>>>>> probably >>>>>> shaved another pound off with Jon Neugent's 1430g wheels. Having said >>>>>> that, >>>>>> it doesn't beat my custom Ti touring bike built based on the 1993 >>>>>> Bridgestone RB-1 geometry on climbs up hills or stability on descents >>>>>> (the >>>>>> higher BB on the Roadini is to blame). What I do find is that with 38mm >>>>>> tires it is an excellent gravel bike and I have no issues taking it down >>>>>> single track trails that others would consider MTB trails. The Tektro >>>>>> 559s >>>>>> outperform any disc brakes I've ever found and never make noise (unlike >>>>>> any >>>>>> disc brakes I've ever ridden). >>>>>> >>>>>> I did buy another 50cm Roadini to build up for my son when he's tall >>>>>> enough to ride it (which won't take a year), so that tells you that I >>>>>> think >>>>>> it's the best general purpose bike in the Rivendell stable. The bike is >>>>>> so >>>>>> versatile I wouldn't hesitate to take it anywhere except a dedicated >>>>>> downhill MTB park. >>>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:54:56 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Howdy all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I realize I'm posting this on the RBW list, so there is bound to >>>>>>> be some bias and that's ok.. ;) I'm a Riv owner myself with a current >>>>>>> AHH I >>>>>>> got from my Dad when he passed and have previously owned a Bleriot and >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> Ram for a short time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, my question is simple- does the Roadini feel fast(ish) when >>>>>>> riding? I'm sure builds vary and so weight will vary, but I know some >>>>>>> bikes >>>>>>> can weigh a bit more and still feel "quick".. to be fair, I'm no racer, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> I like a bike to feel good when I stand up to pedal or am zipping >>>>>>> around at >>>>>>> my, fast for me, 18-19 mph.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be looking to build up with drop bars BTW with a modern-ish >>>>>>> group.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Finally, anyone have a 50cm frameset (or complete maybe) they are >>>>>>> looking to move? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Chris is Sonoma County, CA :) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/G2DiczDP4Es/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bf548ab0-7d9a-45a1-ad35-0ca9f1615327n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bf548ab0-7d9a-45a1-ad35-0ca9f1615327n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5638d2c8-0410-44d7-8657-d6dfca45e84en%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5638d2c8-0410-44d7-8657-d6dfca45e84en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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